Author: Joe Weisenthal

  • Gazprom Has Finally Accepted That Shale Gas Is About To Change The World

    The Russian gas giant this week said it will allow up to 15% of its gas sales to Europe to be sold at spot gas prices on the continent.

    This is a big shift for Gazprom. Previously, the major insisted on selling gas to European users under long-term contracts. With gas prices linked to prevailing oil prices.

    It’s long been usual practice in Europe to sell gas using an oil-linked price structure. Decades ago, when gas was just coming into widespread use, players in the industry decided that the fuel should be priced according to value of the other fuels it was displacing. If users were switching from oil to gas, the gas should cost roughly as much as the unused oil, on an energy-content basis.

    This cost structure prevailed in Europe for a long time. But shale gas seems to have cut the legs out from under oily gas prices.

    With America now producing above and beyond expectations thanks to shale gas development, gas exporters globally are scrambling to find markets. The world built liquefied natural gas plants thinking the U.S. would be the “market of last resort”.

    But America is awash in its own production, and the high American prices that exporters were hoping for have vanished. Meaning that today there is a fleet of LNG ships looking for a home for their product.

    This flood of global gas supply has depressed spot gas prices globally. To the point where the traditional 6 to 1 oil to gas price ratio has become more like 15 to 1. Gas is very cheap compared to crude.

    The result being that European gas users would rather buy cheap LNG than pay high rates for oil-linked gas piped in by Gazprom.

    Gazprom resisted re-pricing its gas for some time. But this week’s announcement suggests the company has finally capitulated. They are willing to sell some of their gas at lower, spot prices. Otherwise they will be largely priced out of the European market.

    The interesting thing will be the knock-on effects of Gazprom’s decision. Suddenly, a lot of Russian gas is price-competitive with LNG. Meaning that fewer LNG shipments will be ordered to the continent.

    The question is: where will these boats go? They may end up headed back to America. Asian gas buyers are busy sewing up contracts with new LNG developments in Australia. If Europe and Asia are out, the U.S. is the only game in town.

    A spate of new LNG landings in the U.S. would have a downward effect on North American gas prices. At a time when prices in many parts of America are already falling below $5 per mcf. Just this week, gas major EnCana said it expects North American prices to remain in the $6 range for the foreseeable future.

    This is progress. The gas industry did a great job over the last several years of developing new supply globally. Now we just have to find a place to put it all.

    Dave Forest
    [email protected] www.piercepoints.com
    Copyright 2009 Resource Publishers Inc.

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  • Unsafe At Any Emissions: Toyota Set To Announce Massive 2010 Prius Recall

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    It looks like the manufacturing problems at Toyota are set to whack the company’s flagship and forward-thinking line, the Prius.

    According to CNN, the company will recall the entire 2010 line. Though problems have been known for some time, the company had not yet decided what, exactly, it intended to do.

    If you’re unsure how Toyota got to this situation, see our complete guide to Toyota’s self-destruction >

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  • Oil Giant Shell Says Demand Is Weak, Outlook Is Uncertain, And That It’s Going To Be Giving Out More Pink Slips

    If you figure a giant oil multinational is a good proxy for the global economy, then Shell’s latest report won’t be too comforting.

    The company reported a Q4 profit of $1.96 billion, but the company’s refining business is still getting killed on weak end-customer gasoline demand.

    And so it intends to cut another $1 billion out of its expenses, and slash another 1,000 jobs in the new year.

    If you want to see a chart that really explains what’s going on, this one we posted yesterday from Schork tells the story.

    We’re just not headed to old gas consumption highs.

    schork gasoline consumption

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  • China Guarantees Future Stronghold In Iraq After Forgiving Saddam’s Debt

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    Interesting move on the part of China, presumably intended to guarantee close cooperation between it and Iraq going forward.

    With Iraq potentially set to be the new Saudi Arabia — and China having an amazing thirst for oil — this move makes sense.

    AP: Iraq says China has agreed to write off 80 percent of its Saddam Hussein-era debt.

    A statement posted on the Iraqi Finance Ministry Web site on Tuesday put Iraq’s debt to China at $8.5 billion.

    The statement says the promise followed a meeting between China’s ambassador to Iraq and Iraq’s Finance Minister Bayan Jabr. It says the write-off “will enhance economic cooperation between the two friendly countries.”

    The deal could further push Chinese business interests in Iraq. The China National Petroleum Corp. has secured two lucrative oil deals that reflects China’s drive to seek new energy sources for its growing economy.

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  • Here’s How China Came To Kick The World’s Ass, And Dominate The Global Rare Earth Metals Industry

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    The latest edition of The China Analyst hits on the hot topic of rare earth metals, and includes an excellent interview with Chinese professor Fu Zhongde, a scientist deeply involved in the country’s advancement of this industry. (via MineWeb)

    Will the Chinese government encourage domestic rare earths companies to ‘go global’?

    I am afraid the government will not do so. If, on the one hand, the Chinese government regulates the industry and limits rare earth exports, while on the other hand encouraging REE companies to go global, it would be contradictory and unfair. I do not think the government will do this.

    What is currently the status of Chinese rare earth processing technology compared to the rest of the world? How advanced is it exactly? Will China require technological assistance from overseas?

    Rare earth processing technology in China is highly advanced and can be regarded as filling an important gap in the world. China can supply REE products as pure as 99.9999%, while for example French companies can only produce 99.999% pure products and Japanese firms generally produce 99.9% purity products. In addition to the purity, Chinese technology now uses low energy consumption, creates no pollution, and utilises a zero discharge process. So in terms of rare earths processing technology, China definitely leads the world and is certainly very competitive. I can attest to that myself, being the owner of a few patents in the field of ion exchange technology.    

    The full interview and more is found in the report below.  



    TheChinaAnalyst_Jan2010

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  • Pro-Russian Candidate Wins First Round Of Ukrainian Election

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    Four years ago, Ukrainians took to the streets to support an ostensibly open democratic movement dubbed the “Orange Revolution.”

    But the country has stagnated since then, and today voters offically took steps to turn back the clock, as former loser Victor Yanukovich won the first round of the country’s national election.

    Yanukovich is Putin’s preferred candidate, and his election would take the country much closer to Moscow — perhaps an appealing prospect for a country that lives in fear of freezing winters, and the threat of Russians shutting off national gas.

    But his election is no sure thing.

    Current prime minister Yulia Tymoshenko (pictured) won the second place in the election, and when all the voters go to the polls to select between just two candidates (in the next round) she could easily pull ahead.

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  • China Becomes Coal Importer For The First Time Ever, As Deep Freeze Forces Rationing Across Several Provinces

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    China, a voracious consumer of coal, switched from being an exporter to importer of the stuff in 2009, fresh data from the government shows.

    According to SeaTrade Asia Online, the company imported 89.11 million tonnes only through the first 11 months of the year, and that this number will be pushed much higher when December data is included.

    Meanwhile, China is in a deep freeze just like the US and Europe, and multiple provinces are insisting on energy rationing.

    This gives you a nice sense of how rapidly domestic consumption is growing. The country has flipped its position on coal — so long energy independence, how quaint! — and is rationing.

    Expect lots and lots more commodities hoarding to come.

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  • IEA Says Developed-World Oil Demand Already Looking Weaker Than Expected

    Some interesting commentary this morning from the International Energy Agency, which released its latest oil market outlook.

    While the organization sees global aggregate demand basically unchanged from its last forecast, it’s reducing its estimates for OECD demand, despite the harsh winter and attendant demand for heating oil.

    Forecast  global  oil  demand  remains  virtually  unchanged  for  both  2009  and  2010,  as  weaker preliminary  data  for  the  OECD  offset  more  buoyant  readings  in  non‐OECD  countries. Global oil demand is expected to average 84.9 mb/d in 2009 (‐1.5% or ‐1.3 mb/d year‐on‐year) and 86.3 mb/d in 
    2010 (+1.7% or +1.4 mb/d versus the previous year). Growth continues to be driven by non‐OECD 
    countries, most notably in Asia. Oil demand recovery in the OECD is likely to remain sluggish, despite a 
    bout of recent cold weather. 
     
    • The OECD oil demand projection is adjusted down by 50 kb/d on average in both 2009 and 2010 
    given weaker‐than‐expected preliminary data for Europe and North America. The fall in oil demand in 
    2009 is estimated at 4.4% year‐on‐year (‐2.1 mb/d), with demand averaging 45.5 mb/d and remaining 
    flat in 2010. However, the forecast faces downside risks for this year, with the largest OECD economies 
    (the US, Japan and Germany) featuring a sluggish recovery and persistently weak oil demand. 

    Naturally, the picture is a bit better in the non-OECD developing world, yet even there it’s not all roses. A big part of the expected growth is owed to expected continuing Chinese stimulus.

    Forecast non‐OECD oil demand has been revised up by roughly 70 kb/d for both 2009 and 2010, 
    largely due to higher‐than‐expected Chinese data. Assuming that the impact of China’s government 
    stimulus programme continues to be felt during most of this year, non‐OECD demand is expected to 
    reach 40.9 mb/d (+3.7% or +1.4 mb/d on a yearly basis), after growing by 2.0% (+0.8 mb/d) in 2009. 

    And here’s what they say on the subject of the cold snap:

    The cold wave that hit the northern hemisphere in the past few weeks has led many observers to 
    predict a surge in oil demand, driven by heating and power generation needs, and an erosion of OECD 
    distillate stocks. However, such reasoning overlooks the fact that the already relatively small share of 
    oil for heating and power generation is shrinking in the OECD, as oil is gradually replaced by other 
    energy sources, most notably natural gas. Moreover, it remains to be seen whether this winter overall 
    will be much colder on average than last year’s, which was particularly cold. As such, it would be 
    premature  to  boost  our  1Q10  forecast,  which  assumes  similar  weather  conditions  to  those  that prevailed last year. 

    The following chart gives a nice look at how different global demand growth across the world looks.

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  • Detroit Is Partying Again: Photos From The Detroit Auto Show

    sergio fat dieter chryslerDetroit is back!

    At least that’s the message this week, at the Detroit Auto Show.

    GM is re-opening factories and repaying some bailout money. Ford is on a roll, making money and winning awards, and Chrysler is, well, Chrysler.

    In Detroit this year, they had it all: dancers, foreign automakers, hybrids, and of course, politicians!

    Check out the scene here — >

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  • Why Investors Are Crazy For Rare-Earth Metals, And The Exporting Countries That Have The World By Its Balls

    rare earthFor now the world is still obsessed with the price and geopolitics of oil.

    Every other commodity remains secondary.

    But while the internal combustion engine will be with us for awhile, the world is changing, and oil will slowly fade in importance.

    In its place, the world will increasingly focus on rare elemants that are used in various power and technological applications.

    Already in 2009, there was a huge spike in interest in rare earth elemants, as the world discovered that the green technologies of the future (new engines, batteries, not to mention iPods and other technological devices) would lead us on a journey to countries like Bolivia, Chile, and China, and that in China’s case especially, there would be serious concerns about access and ongoing supply.

    So to get ready for this future, we’ve put together a brief overview of rare earth elemants, and other commodities that you must pay attention to. The first part is a presentation from Avalon Rare Metals, explaining what they’re all about, and the second lists key countries to pay attention to.

    Now, meet the new OPEC — >

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  • The Entire World Is Freezing! Oil At 15-Month High!

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    It’s 35.4 degrees in Miami this morning, one of the city’s coldest mornings in decades.

    The ongoing Florida chill is what’s devastating the orange juice crop, and sending prices soaring.

    In the UK, a freakishly cold and snowy winter is prompting a range of anomolies from a natural gas shortage, to a surge in activity at adultery websites.

    Meanwhile a deep freeze in the rest of Europe is pushing up all energy prices. Oil is at a 15-year high.

    Same too for China, where cold and snow is causing a surge in demand for heating oil.

    The world is freezing!

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  • The AMAZING Corporate Anthem Of Russian Gas Giant Gazprom

    Update: A commenter reminds us we’ve posted this before, but you know what, we don’t mind. If we had forgotten about it, then surely several readers have, too, and it’s just that good.

    Original post: Russian gas giant Gazprom has an amazing corporate anthem which starts with the lyrics “Don’t bother trying, you’ll never find a surer friend than Gazprom.” It’s not new, but it never gets old, and you will enjoy watching it immensely.

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  • Michael Pettis: China Has No Idea How Vulnerable It Is To A Trade War

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    A trade war is one of those calamities that people always see lurking right around the corner.

    No doubt it’s going to be one of the big fears for 2010 (just as it was in 2009, 2008, 2007, etc.) It’s kind of like wild inflation in that respect.

    Generally though, the world continues to move towards freer trade, despite little skirmishes that never amount to a full-blown war.

    But with China rushing headlong into recovery, and with the Western world faltering, there’s a new case to be made for the outbreak of protectionism.

    Michael Pettis, a Peking University professor and author of the excellent China Financial Markets blog, sees it coming this year, and believes China is totally unprepared for what’s about to come.

    I am no expert on the subject of criminal law or the environment, and so have little to add beyond all that has already been said, but the huge amount of angry criticism China has received on the very visible subjects of the Copenhagen meeting and the execution of a British subject caught smuggling drugs will make it easier for tariffs and restrictions aimed at China to generate popular approval in Europe, North America and the developing world, especially since protectionists can easily add a “moral dimension” to their arguments.

    I am not sure Chinese policymakers fully understand how vulnerable China is to trade war.  This is perhaps because the “success” of the stimulus package has convinced them that they are less vulnerable to external demand than they originally thought.  But this would be a serious misreading.  The stimulus package has postponed the effect of declining net foreign demand on Chinese unemployment, but has actually increased its vulnerability by increasing the future gap between what China produces and what it consumes.  China needs foreign demand to keep absorbing its excess capacity for several more years while it engineers the difficult transition to domestic consumption-led growth, but I don’t see either China taking the necessary steps to force the transition or foreigners looking very eager to help China through the process.

    This sabotage of Copenhagen as a crucial turning point is an interesting one. The conclusion some are coming to is that the summit — regardless of how symbolic it was — represents China’s willingness to take big-time international criticism, whereas previously they had a reputation for always seeking to save face.

    If public criticism no longer means very much to the Chinese government, then harsher measures, like various protectionism measures, will have to do.

    Read the rest of Pettis’s post here — >

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  • CERA Analyst Jim Osten: There’s A Permanent Oversupply Of Natural Gas (UNG)

    For those interested in natural gas, CNBC held a good, brief debate on it between bull Arthur Gelberg, and Jim Osten of Camrbridge Energy Research Associates (CERA), who argues that we’re basically looking at a permanent sate of oversupply.

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  • Nephew Of Opposition Leader Is Killed, Critic Predicts Regime Collapse, As Iran Descends Into Chaos Again

    iranWhile America was kvetching about new security restrictions, and what it would mean for holiday travel, Iran continued its descent into total public chaos for the second time this year.

    The first time was in the aftermath of the disputed elections this summer.

    According to The Wall Street Journal, the nephew of chief opposition leader Mir Hossain Moussavi has been killed.

    The protests — which coincide with the Iranian festival Ashura (celebrating martyrdom) — brings new uncertainty to the regime. In a timely, must-read regime critic and Duke professor Ayatollah Mohsen Kadivar predicts the current system is toast — and that it’s only a matter of time.

    Meanwhile, wrenching images and videos are flowing out of the country once again. The LA Times has culled several interesting videos.

    Now see the footage >>

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  • Dwindling Oil Production Threatens To Blow The Trans-Alaska Pipeline

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    The 800-mile long trans-Alaska pipeline — a key artery in our national oil infrastructure — is on the verge of collapse owing to the decreased production out of Alaska’s North Slope.

    As with other key components of oil infrastructure, the pipeline does not do well then the flow slows to a trickle. Underutilization is a major problem.

    The Seattle-Tacoma News Tribune (via The Oil Drum) has an interesting report on the situation there

    In the 1980s, at peak oil flows, a barrel of oil made the trip from Prudhoe Bay to Valdez in four days.

    Now it takes 13 days.

    The slower flow causes the temperature of the hot oil to cool faster. At some point, the oil temperature will dip below the freezing point of water along certain segments, unless Alyeska reheats the oil inside the pipe.

    As it gets colder, ice and wax may coat the insides of the pipeline. The colder oil might also increase the risk of buried segments of the pipeline jacking up in the ground, company officials said.

    The problems have been building for decades and will only become more pressing as oil production declines further.

    For example, Alyeska, owned by BP, Conoco Phillips, Exxon Mobil and two smaller companies, used to launch devices to scrape wax — a component of the oil — out of the pipe’s interior every several weeks.

    Now it’s every four to seven days.

    Read the whole story >

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  • Battling Forces Dig In, As Iraq-Iran Oil Well Standoff Continues

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    It’s over a week later, and armed forces from both Iraq and Iran are still battling over a dispute oil well.

    Reuters:

    Iraqi troops say they will defend the well, where Iranian troops raised a flag for several days this month.

    It is unclear how many troops are involved in the stand-off, but as many as 30 lightly armed Iraqi troops usually occupy border outposts in sensitive areas, and up to 10 in other areas. Some 11 Iranian soldiers are stationed near the disputed well.

    The seizure of the well, which Iraq says is part of its Fakka oilfield in southeast Maysan province, triggered protests from the government in Baghdad and caused a rise in prices on jittery world oil markets.

    For more, go re-read Stratfor’s analysis of the situation, about the message Iran is sending to the US.

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  • Warren Buffett Says He Spent $44 Billion On Burlington Northern To Fulfill A “Boyhood Dream” (BRK, BNI)

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    Burlington Northern (BNI) has just published an internal video interview with its soon-to-be owner Warren Buffett about what Berkshire Hathaway (BRK) plans to do with the company.

    The answer?

    Nothing.

    In classic Buffett form, he insists he has no plans to do anything with the railroad excpet let it run itself as it’s always done.

    You’ll see. Several times throughout the interview he’s asked about this or that (pension stuff, infrastructure, etc.) and his answer is the same each time. Burlington’s management will handle it. It’s none of his — or anyone else at Berkshire’s — business.

    At the end he notes that it’s taken him 79 years, but that with this acquisition he’s finally fulfilled a boyhood dream.

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    MKR:
    Hi, I’m Matt Rose.  Welcome to this special edition of BNSF Video News.  As you all know, we’ve been in the news a lot with the major announcement that we have the future ownership position of BNSF being acquired by Berkshire Hathaway.  So I’ve been asked a lot of questions around, what does this mean for BNSF, what does it mean for the individuals that work for BNSF, what does it mean for customers, and what does it mean for the communities in which we operate?  And so I thought, who better to ask these questions to than Warren Buffett, chairman, chief executive officer of Berkshire Hathaway.  We have a great treat.  We’ve got Warren with us today at this taping, so we’re going to get right into it.  I’ve asked about 20 people to send in a number of questions, of “ask-Warren” questions, and they did.  They sent in about 150 questions.  We’re only going to ask about 15 to 20.  We’ll see how we do on time.  So let’s get right into it.  Again, Warren, welcome, thank you for joining us.  The first one is, why BNSF, and why now?
     
     
     
       
     
    WB:
    Well, uh, you know, I love railroads.  I mean, you go back 70 years when I used to be going down to Union Station every Sunday, and so I’ve watched it for years.  And, and we couldn’t have done this 20 years ago, in terms of the size of Berkshire.  But Berkshire piles up.  We don’t pay out any dividends, so we pile up 8 or 9 or 10 billion dollars a year, and, and, you know, this is a dream for me, you know, getting a chance to buy a wonderful railroad like this, and uh, uh, you know, I couldn’t be happier about it.
     
     
     
       
     
    MKR:
    So, the next one.  In announcing the acquisition, you said it’s an all-in wager on the economic future of the United States.  Buffett, who has been building up his rail holdings for several years, said in the statement, I love these events.  So would you please just share your perspective and thoughts on the future of the rail industry?
     
     
     
       
     
    WB:
    Well, it has to do well if the country does well, and the country is going to do well.  So, you know, I don’t know about next week or next month or even next year, but if you look at the next 50 years, this country is going to grow, it’s going to have more people, it’s going to have more goods moving, and rail is the logical way for many of those goods to travel, and probably a greater percentage all the time, just in terms of, of cost efficiency, in terms of fuel efficiency, in terms of environmentally-friendly.  So there’s no way rail is going to lose share, and I think the pie is going to grow, and I think the rail share of the pie is going to grow.
     
     
     
       
     
    MKR:
    So the next question.  You said in the past, you’d rather buy a great business at a fair price than a fair business at a great price.  What does BNSF meet the definition of a great business?
     
     
     
       
     
     
       
           
     
     
     
     
     
       
           
     

     
     
     
     
       
     
    WB:
    Well, it’s a great business in that you know it’s going to be here forever, to start with.  I mean, the hula-hoop business came and, you know, went, and then, you know, the pet rocks and all that kind of thing.  And even television set manufacturers have, you know, moved over to Japan.  All of that sort of thing.  The rail business is not going to go anyplace.  It’s going to be right here in the United States.  There’s going to be four big railroads that are moving more and more goods.  So it’s, it’s, it’s a good business.  It, it can’t be, it can’t be something like Coca Cola or Google, because it’s, you know, it’s a public service type business, too, and it has, it has a fair amount of regulation that is part of the picture.  But it’ll be a good business over time.  It will make sense for this country to want railroads to continue to invest more and more money, in terms of expanding and becoming more efficient.  So you’re on the side of society, and society will largely be on your side.  Not every day, but most of the time.
     
     
     
       
     
    MKR:
    Well, I think our 40,000 employees definitely agree with that.  Alright, so the next one.  Historically, are companies more profitable after joining Berkshire Hathaway, and if so, why?
     
     
     
       
     
    WB:
    Well, you can run the business exactly as you see fit.  You don’t have to please banks.  You don’t have to please Wall Street.  You don’t have to, you know, you don’t have to please media or anybody else.  Basically, it frees up the managers of our businesses to do exactly what they love to do, which is to run their businesses.  And, and, and there’s no home really like Berkshire that can offer that.
     
     
     
       
     
    MKR:
    Alright.  The next question is, and I didn’t ask this, will Berkshire directly be involved in the management of BNSF, and will the management structure change?
     
     
     
       
     
    WB:
    No, it won’t.  It’s very simple.  We’ve got 20 people in Omaha, and there isn’t one of them that knows how to run a railroad.
     
     
     
       
     
    MKR:
    Alright, next question.  Will this transaction impact employment levels positively or negatively?
     
           
     
    WB:
    Well, I don’t think it changes anything, really, in that respect.  I mean, you’ll be running the railroad, and you’ll run it in an efficient way, and when times are good, you’re going to have more people employed than when times are bad.  But nothing in our ownership really has any effect on employment.
     
           
     
    MKR:
    Okay.  So, this came from one of our locomotive engineers.  He said, will rail labor have access to you regarding issues?  How do you balance negotiating fair wages, health care, and a good work environment with Berkshire Hathaway earnings?
     
           
     
    WB:
    Well, you’ll do it just like you’ve managed it in terms of BNSF earnings.  And there will be no involvement by me or anybody else in Omaha in terms of labor or in terms of purchasing or in terms of what locomotives you buy, anything of the sort. It’s  we bought it because it was well-managed.  If, if, if we had to bring management to BNSF, both of us would have been in trouble.
     
           
           
           
     
     
     
     
     
       
           
     
     

     
     
     
     
       
     
    MKR:
    Okay.  The next question came from our finance group.  Will there be a significant, will there be significant BNSF asset sales to pay down the eight-billion-dollar acquisition debt?
     
     
     
       
     
    WB:
    Not a dime.  Not a dime.
     
     
     
       
     
    MKR:
    Next question.  Will Berkshire continue to invest the capital needed to maintain the BNSF infrastructure?
     
     
     
       
     
    WB:
    Well, it’d be crazy if we didn’t.  You know, we’re not going to, we’re not going to buy a business and starve it.  You got where you are because you were willing to make the investments ahead of time to pay it off 3, 5, 10 years down the road, and that’s, that’s part of the railroad business, and it’ll stay part of the railroad business.
     
     
     
       
     
    MKR:
    You’ve heard me talk about regulatory risk.  We’ve been talking to our employees about that for a number of years.  And the question is, uh, what’s your perspective on the regulatory risk in our industry, from what you know about it?
     
     
     
       
     
    WB:
    Well, Matt, it’ll never go away, in the sense that, people, you know, you will always have people that are bothered by what you’re charging, and you know, whether it’s in some farmer in a pasture or wherever.  And the very fact that it has a utility aspect to it.  Now it has an entrepreneurial aspect to it, too, but it has a utility aspect to it.  So it’s always going to be regulated.  There always will be some tension between shippers and railroads, and they will all, there will always be some people who will try and use political influence to affect rates.  But in the end, the country needs railroads to spend lots and lots and lots of money merely to stay in the same place, but then beyond that, to grow, and, and it would be crazy of society to deny you a reasonable rate of return.
     
           
     
    MKR:
    Another question from the finance group.  Will BNSF capital requests now have to compete internally with other Berkshire interests?
     
           
     
    WB:
    Not in the least.  No.
     
           
     
    MKR:
    I thought it was a good question.  Okay, next question.  In 10 years, how will you evaluate the acquisition of BNSF, whether or not it’s been successful?
     
           
     
    WB:
    Well, I I’ll measure it against my own standard, which is that I have made a bet on the country doing well.  And if I’m wrong on that, that’s my fault and not anybody at BNSF’s fault.  But I will look at it how it does compared to other railroads.  I’ll look at how railroads are doing versus trucking and all of that.  But in the end, I don’t really worry about that very much.  I, I’ve seen what’s been done here.  I think I know how the country is going to develop.  I think the west is going to do well.  I’d rather be in the west than the east.  So I really don’t have much of a worry about that.
     
           
     
    MKR:
    The next question is, how should be BNSF support the long-term goals of Berkshire Hathaway, and what expectations have you established for the BNSF management team?
     
           
           
           
     
     
     
     
     
       
           

     
     
       
     
    WB:
    You should, you should really be doing it as if you had the same 250,000 owners you have now.  I mean, their interests are the same, you know, as Berkshire’s will be, and, and I don’t really see any difference.  We want this railroad run as well as it can be.  We’d love it every, every, every car you can steal away from the Union Pacific [unintelligible], but we want Union Pacific to do well, too.  I mean, we’re both going to do well, too.  I mean, we’re both going to do well, you know, in the years ahead.  And, and, you know, if we thought it needed changing, we wouldn’t be here.
     
     
     
       
     
    MKR:
    Okay, this was a question from one of the employees.  I heard Berkshire’s eliminated company-sponsored pension plans at some companies.  What are the plans for the BNSF pension plans, and what factors do you take into consideration when evaluating whether to maintain a pension plan at a company you acquire?
     
     
     
       
     
    WB:
    Yeah.  That will be up to the management.  I mean, there may be changes in benefits that the government legislates.  I mean, who would have guessed 401K’s would have come along 40 years ago or something of the sort.  But you’ll make those determinations just like you make all other determinations.
     
     
     
       
     
    MKR:
    BNSF has developed a pay structure that encourages employees to take ownership of the company by basing a portion of the compensation on corporate performance.  How will this change after the merger?
     
     
     
       
     
    WB:
    Well, the people who have been involved in any kind of a pay-for-performance-type arrangement, whether it’s stock or anything else, will undoubtedly have a pay-for-performance type of compensation, which, you know, you’ll work out, basically.
     
     
     
       
     
    MKR:
    Okay, so there were just a lot of questions on your view of the national economy and philosophy around this.  A couple of questions.  One, it’s been said recently that the rising national debt may be the next economic crisis.  Do you agree, and what should be done about it?
     
           
     
    WB:
    Well, I actually wrote an article about that a few months ago.  I mean, it is a problem, but if, if you sat down at the start of every year going back to 1776, you could have written down a bunch of problems in the United States.  We aren’t perfect at avoiding them, but we’re pretty darn good at solving them.  I mean, you know, we’ve even had a civil war in this country, you know, let alone a Great Depression, world wars, and flu epidemics and all that sort of thing.  So the country always has problems.  The country always solves them.  And I don’t know whether business comes back in 3 months or 6 months, but I know this: in the next 100 years, we’re probably going to have 50 bad years, I mean 15 bad years in the United States, and we’re probably going to have, you know, another 15 so-so, and we’ll probably have 70 good ones, something like that.  I don’t know the order in which they’re going to come, but overall, this country works.  We started out with 4 million people in 1790, and look at what we’ve got now.  And it’s because of the system.
     
           
     
    MKR:
    Next question.  Do you promote management collaboration among the subsidiary companies?
     
           
           
           
     
     
     
     
     
       
           
     
     

     
     
     
     
       
     
    WB:
    Yeah, we, we tell them if they can find ways to do things among themselves that benefit both parties, go to it.  But we don’t, we don’t force anything through Omaha.  We’ve got, for example, a carpet company that worked out something with our insulation company, Johns Manville, in terms of back hauls, for example.  And we’ve got other companies cooperated on getting special discounts by buying computers cause of mass purchasing power.  But we’ve never ordered anything from Omaha.  We don’t convene people to do that or anything.  The managers do get to know each other, and sometimes they figure out things to their mutual advantage.
     
     
     
       
     
    MKR:
    Okay, the next question is, it’s thought that Berkshire Hathaway has not previously invested in heavily-unionized companies.  Given that, what are Mr. Buffett’s views of the role of unions in private-sector businesses generally, and at BNSF in particular?
     
     
     
       
     
    WB:
    Yeah, we probably have, I’m sure we have more than a dozen businesses that are, are anywhere from moderately-unionized to very heavily-unionized.  The Buffalo News we’ve probably got, I don’t know, 12 or 13 unions.  In See’s Candy, we’ve got unions.  We’ve got, we’ve got unions at CTB, our farm equipment company.  We’ve got lots and lots of unions.  And there, you know, we — it’s a question of the industry, to a great extent, and, and uh, and what the management has done in the past, and so on.
     
     
     
       
     
    MKR:
    You’ve acquired some terrific private and family-run companies where the owners have great passion for their business.  What traits have made those companies so successful, and how can the BNSF family of 40,000 employees apply those principles in our work and lives?
     
     
     
       
     
    WB:
    Yeah, well, we, we do — we look for companies where the managers are passionate about the business.  It makes a real difference.  I mean, anybody that’s enthused about something just brings something extra to the decision-making and the work every day.  So I wouldn’t, I really wouldn’t be here today unless I thought you were passionate about the business.  I mean, it’s crazy to have some bureaucratic type going through the motions every day running a business.  It won’t work in America.  And, and it’s, it’s an important ingredient.  You do find quite often in family businesses, and you probably find it a little less often in, in, in the professionally managed operation, but I’m sure it exists at BNSF.
     
     
     
       
     
    MR:
    Closing comments?
     
           
     
    WB:
    Closing comments is, I’m happy to be here.  This — I had to wait until I was 79, but it’s still a boyhood dream come true.
     
           
     
    MKR:
    Well, Warren, I get the question a lot, of how life will change.  It’s been a little frustrating, I think, for some of our employees, because at the end of the day, truly, this is mainly about corporate structure.  Instead of shareholders, we now have Berkshire Hathaway and yourself.  What our employees continue to be focused on, of course, every day, is improving safety, getting more freight to the railroad, taking cost out, and, and going deeper into our customer supply chain. And we look forward to a great relationship with Berkshire Hathaway, and we’re delighted that you took this time to come and spend it on our video news, and I’m sure it means a lot to all of our employees.  Thanks very much.
     
           
     
    WB:
    Thanks for inviting me.
     
         

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