{"id":116429,"date":"2009-12-30T16:00:29","date_gmt":"2009-12-30T21:00:29","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/blogs.discovermagazine.com\/badastronomy\/?p=9754"},"modified":"2009-12-30T16:00:29","modified_gmt":"2009-12-30T21:00:29","slug":"well-you-can-forget-ginkgo-biloba-bad-astronomy","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/mereja.media\/index\/116429","title":{"rendered":"Well, you can forget ginkgo biloba | Bad Astronomy"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>I&#8217;m not too surprised to find out that <a rel=\"nofollow\"  href=\"http:\/\/www.usatoday.com\/news\/health\/2009-12-30-ginkgo30_ST_N.htm\">a rigorous scientific test of ginkgo biloba found that it did not have the effects claimed by alt-med enthusiasts<\/a>, including helping memory retention. Just speaking statistically, knowing the sheer number of claims made by people using &#8220;alternative&#8221; medicines, the vast majority of them are bound to actually not be true. Almost without exception, these kinds of claims are anecdotal in nature, which is unreliable. We need properly-handled blinded medical studies to find out the real nature of these claims, and this one, unfortunately, has not panned out. <\/p>\n<p>I don&#8217;t expect this to have any impact whatsoever on either the sales of ginkgo biloba or the way it&#8217;s advertised, of course. In general, the practice of alt-med as it is presented to the public is not based in scientific analysis of evidence, so it doesn&#8217;t matter how much evidence is provided that shows that a particular claim is false.<\/p>\n<p>That doesn&#8217;t mean we in the reality-based world <em>want<\/em> these tests to fail. My favorite part in the article is this:<\/p>\n<blockquote>\n<p><em>The study finding is &#8220;disappointing news,&#8221; says Steven DeKosky, dean of the University of Virginia School of Medicine and the study&#8217;s senior author. The only positive thing the researchers found is that ginkgo appears to be safe, he says.<\/em><\/p>\n<\/blockquote>\n<p>DeKosky is dean of a prestigious medical school, and says he&#8217;s disappointed. Of course he is. Despite what a lot of the alt-medders (and antivaxxers) say, <em>doctors really do want what&#8217;s best for their patients<\/em>. If ginkgo had panned out, then that would be another weapon in doctors&#8217; arsenals to make us healthier, and make us healthier for longer in our lives. But it didn&#8217;t work, so he was disappointed. <\/p>\n<p>Those of us skeptical of these alternatives to modern medicine <em>don&#8217;t<\/em> want these things to fail. We already know that some mainstream medicines are based on what could once have been called herbal medicines &#8212; aspirin is the obvious example, originally made from willow bark &#8212; so we know better than to dismiss these potential additions to medicine out of hand. <\/p>\n<p>What we do dismiss are anecdotes provided as evidence, or used to make claims that aren&#8217;t warranted from the evidence. All those anecdotes are is a place to <em>start<\/em> investigating the evidence for a potential medicine, not evidence in and of themselves.<\/p>\n<p><em>Tip o&#8217; the ginkgo berry to <a rel=\"nofollow\"  href=\"http:\/\/www.fark.com\/cgi\/comments.pl?IDLink=4893668\">Fark<\/a>.<\/em><\/p>\n<p><a rel=\"nofollow\"  href=\"http:\/\/feedads.g.doubleclick.net\/~a\/tKKILKQUGBDQJUnJq4jC47d-bpY\/0\/da\"><img decoding=\"async\" src=\"http:\/\/feedads.g.doubleclick.net\/~a\/tKKILKQUGBDQJUnJq4jC47d-bpY\/0\/di\" border=\"0\" ismap><\/a><br \/>\n<a rel=\"nofollow\"  href=\"http:\/\/feedads.g.doubleclick.net\/~a\/tKKILKQUGBDQJUnJq4jC47d-bpY\/1\/da\"><img decoding=\"async\" src=\"http:\/\/feedads.g.doubleclick.net\/~a\/tKKILKQUGBDQJUnJq4jC47d-bpY\/1\/di\" border=\"0\" ismap><\/a><\/p>\n<p><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" src=\"http:\/\/feeds.feedburner.com\/~r\/BadAstronomyBlog\/~4\/Wgy3ukY31DI\" height=\"1\" width=\"1\"\/><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" src=\"http:\/\/feeds.feedburner.com\/~r\/DiscoverMag\/~4\/iZABVHp0vMM\" height=\"1\" width=\"1\"\/><\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>I&#8217;m not too surprised to find out that a rigorous scientific test of ginkgo biloba found that it did not have the effects claimed by alt-med enthusiasts, including helping memory retention. Just speaking statistically, knowing the sheer number of claims made by people using &#8220;alternative&#8221; medicines, the vast majority of them are bound to actually [&hellip;]<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":641,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"footnotes":""},"categories":[7],"tags":[],"class_list":["post-116429","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry","category-news"],"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/mereja.media\/index\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/116429","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/mereja.media\/index\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/mereja.media\/index\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/mereja.media\/index\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/641"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/mereja.media\/index\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=116429"}],"version-history":[{"count":0,"href":"https:\/\/mereja.media\/index\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/116429\/revisions"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/mereja.media\/index\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=116429"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/mereja.media\/index\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=116429"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/mereja.media\/index\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=116429"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}