{"id":164799,"date":"2010-01-11T07:36:37","date_gmt":"2010-01-11T12:36:37","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/www.businessinsider.com\/henry-blodget-us-stocks-surge-back-into-bubble-territory-2010-1"},"modified":"2010-01-11T07:36:37","modified_gmt":"2010-01-11T12:36:37","slug":"us-stocks-surge-back-into-bubble-territory","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/mereja.media\/index\/164799","title":{"rendered":"US Stocks Surge Back Into Bubble Territory"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>Nothing like free money and the remembrance of good things past to drive stocks into the stratosphere.<\/p>\n<p>As the latest update of Professor Robert Shiller&#8217;s cyclically adjusted PE ratio shows, US stocks are now more than 30% overvalued, at 21X earnings.&nbsp; That&#8217;s more reasonable than the 100%+ overvaluation in 2000, but it&#8217;s close to the level of the three other bubble peaks of the 20th Century: 1901, 1929, and 1966.<\/p>\n<p>Note also in this chart the fallacy of the &#8220;Fed model&#8221;, which argues that PEs should be high because interest rates are low, and vice versa.&nbsp; That relationship has held for the last 30 years, but not earlier.&nbsp; For two decades after the Great Depression (and, today, in Japan), interest rates were very low &#8212; and so were stock valuations.<\/p>\n<p><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" src=\"http:\/\/static.businessinsider.com\/~~\/f?id=4b4b1a2c0000000000ae48a5&amp;maxX=620&amp;maxY=424\" border=\"0\" alt=\"Robert Shiller S&amp;P 500 PE\" width=\"620\" height=\"424\" \/><\/p>\n<p>Of course, today&#8217;s overvaluation doesn&#8217;t tell you much about what stocks will do next week, next year, or even the next 5-10 years.&nbsp; As the chart above shows, before the 2007 market crash, stocks were overvalued for the better part of 20 years&#8211;and observing that didn&#8217;t help you make money.&nbsp; On the contrary, it usually got you fired.<\/p>\n<p>What today&#8217;s valuation does suggest is that stocks are priced to return a bit less than average over the next decade, perhaps 3%-4% real per year (inflation adjusted), as compared to the 6%-7% average.<\/p>\n<p>Today&#8217;s valuations also suggest that stocks may have gotten way ahead of themselves, especially in light of the structural problems that will continue to bog down the economy.<\/p>\n<p>As the chart above illustrates, every one of the prior mega-busts in the past century has been followed by a &#8220;trough&#8221; in which the cyclically adjusted PE ratio hit the high single-digits.&nbsp; We didn&#8217;t quite make it there in March (the P\/E bottomed around 12X), although we did get close.<\/p>\n<p>This, combined with what is likely to be a decade of deleveraging, consumer retrenchment, and sluggish growth as we work off our debt binge, suggests that we still yet might hit that single-digit low before we take off on another secular bull market again.&nbsp; This could be achieved either through another market crash, or a prolonged period of backing and filling as earnings growth gradually reduces the long-term PE ratio (this is what happened in the 1970s).<\/p>\n<p>On the other hand, it is possible that that enormous stimulus and zero interest rates over the past two years will produce that &#8220;v-shaped&#8221; recovery.&nbsp;&nbsp; At this point, given the extent of the recent rally, it would presumably have to be one heck of a &#8220;V&#8221; to send stocks soaring from here.&nbsp; But the last eight months have already made idiots out of almost everyone.<\/p>\n<p><strong>See Also:<\/strong> <a href=\"http:\/\/www.businessinsider.com\/henry-blodget-here-it-is-the-sign-of-the-top-2010-1\">Here It Is, The Sign Of The Top<\/a><\/p>\n<p><a href=\"http:\/\/www.businessinsider.com\/henry-blodget-us-stocks-surge-back-into-bubble-territory-2010-1#comments\">Join the conversation about this story &#187;<\/a><\/p>\n<p><b>See Also:<\/b><\/p>\n<ul>\n<li><a href=\"http:\/\/www.businessinsider.com\/henry-blodget-here-it-is-the-sign-of-the-top-2010-1\">Here It Is, The Sign Of The Top<\/a><\/li>\n<li><a href=\"http:\/\/www.businessinsider.com\/eric-sprott-stocks-heading-below-march-lows-were-in-a-two-decade-bear-market-2009-12\">Eric Sprott: Stocks Heading Below March Lows, We&#8217;re In A Two-Decade Bear Market<\/a><\/li>\n<li><a href=\"http:\/\/www.businessinsider.com\/el-erian-were-still-riding-the-sugar-high-stocks-could-drop-10-in-3-week-span-2009-12\">El-Erian: We&#8217;re Still Riding The Sugar High, Stocks Could Drop 10% In 3-Week Span<\/a><\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<p><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" src=\"http:\/\/feeds.feedburner.com\/~r\/TheMoneyGame\/~4\/VNZ156XicX4\" height=\"1\" width=\"1\"\/><\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Nothing like free money and the remembrance of good things past to drive stocks into the stratosphere. As the latest update of Professor Robert Shiller&#8217;s cyclically adjusted PE ratio shows, US stocks are now more than 30% overvalued, at 21X earnings.&nbsp; That&#8217;s more reasonable than the 100%+ overvaluation in 2000, but it&#8217;s close to the [&hellip;]<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":1,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"footnotes":""},"categories":[7],"tags":[],"class_list":["post-164799","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry","category-news"],"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/mereja.media\/index\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/164799","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/mereja.media\/index\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/mereja.media\/index\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/mereja.media\/index\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/1"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/mereja.media\/index\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=164799"}],"version-history":[{"count":0,"href":"https:\/\/mereja.media\/index\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/164799\/revisions"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/mereja.media\/index\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=164799"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/mereja.media\/index\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=164799"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/mereja.media\/index\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=164799"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}