{"id":171920,"date":"2010-01-12T17:10:06","date_gmt":"2010-01-12T22:10:06","guid":{"rendered":"tag:business.theatlantic.com,2010:\/\/3.33380"},"modified":"2010-01-12T17:10:29","modified_gmt":"2010-01-12T22:10:29","slug":"the-problem-with-americas-new-small-bank-fetish","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/mereja.media\/index\/171920","title":{"rendered":"The Problem with America&#8217;s New &#8220;Small Bank Fetish&#8221;"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>The most important economic debate of 2010 will be how to reform the financial sector to make it more stable. Many of the most popular ideas &#8212; reducing leverage, raising capital requirements, even taxing financial transactions &#8212; rest on the principle that smaller banks support a more stable financial sector.<\/p>\n<p>I just wrote a <a href=\"http:\/\/business.theatlantic.com\/2010\/01\/a_good_argument_for_the_bank_tax.php\">blog post<\/a> defending a bank tax that could (a) shrink large banks and (b) encourage customers to switch to smaller banks. A very smart acquaintance in finance (who asked that he remain anonymous) took issue with the underlying argument. In our reflexive hatred of Too-Big-To-Fail banks, he said, we&#8217;ve fetishized Too-Small-to-Survive banks. Here is a cleaned-up transcript of our (very interesting!) conversation over Gchat:<\/p>\n<p><b>Dr. Gonzo<\/b><span class=\"kn\" dir=\"ltr\">:&nbsp;<\/span> <span dir=\"ltr\" id=\":re\">Regarding <a href=\"http:\/\/business.theatlantic.com\/2010\/01\/a_good_argument_for_the_bank_tax.php\">your bank tax<\/a><\/span><a href=\"http:\/\/business.theatlantic.com\/2010\/01\/a_good_argument_for_the_bank_tax.php\"> piece<\/a>: Making the banks smaller isn&#8217;t sufficient. The small banks have been a disaster as well, and a huge <a href=\"http:\/\/www.fdic.gov\/bank\/individual\/failed\/banklist.html\">drain on the FDIC&#8217;s funding.<\/a><\/p>\n<div class=\"kk\">\nWe&#8217;re at record levels of bank failures for small community banks. Obviously Lehman and Bear were bad things, but <span dir=\"ltr\" id=\":r6\">there have been giant costs imposed on the FDIC by small banks<\/span> that people are not focusing on.<\/p>\n<p><b>Derek<\/b>: That&#8217;s an interesting point.<\/p>\n<\/div>\n<div chat-dir=\"t\" class=\"km\" role=\"chatMessage\">\n<div id=\":r1\" dir=\"ltr\" class=\"kl\"><b>Dr. Gonzo<\/b>:<br \/>\nThe FDIC funds itself through bank assesments. So it&#8217;s not necessarily<br \/>\nthe tax payer&#8217;s problem. But the FDIC will prob get assistance at some<br \/>\npoint if these conditions persist.<\/p>\n<\/div>\n<div id=\":qx\" dir=\"ltr\" class=\"kl\">Check out how long the 08\/09 part of the <a href=\"http:\/\/www.fdic.gov\/bank\/individual\/failed\/banklist.html\">FDIC bank failure list<\/a> is compared to the rest. So the whole smaller = more stable thing is not really borne out by the evidence.<\/p>\n<p><b>Derek<\/b>: Are you saying bigger banks are less likely to fail?\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<p><\/p>\n<div chat-dir=\"t\" class=\"km\" role=\"chatMessage\">\n<div id=\":pz\" dir=\"ltr\" class=\"kl\"><b>Dr. Gonzo<\/b>:<br \/>\nI think the gist is this: Bigger means better access to capital<br \/>\nmarkets and in general more diversified assets and sources of funding. So big institutions can<br \/>\ntake big hits without failing. But when they do, the costs are enormous<br \/>\nand can be destabilizing.<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div chat-dir=\"\" class=\"kq\" role=\"chatMessage\">\n<div class=\"kp\">\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"kk\"><b>Derek<\/b><span class=\"kn\" dir=\"ltr\">:&nbsp;<\/span> <span dir=\"ltr\" id=\":pw\">You&#8217;re saying that the smaller = more stable equivalency is bogus<\/span>.<\/div>\n<div chat-dir=\"t\" class=\"km\" role=\"chatMessage\">\n<div id=\":pn\" dir=\"ltr\" class=\"kl\">\n<b>Dr. Gonzo<\/b><span class=\"kn\" dir=\"ltr\">:&nbsp;<\/span> <span dir=\"ltr\" id=\":pv\">That&#8217;s certainly what the FDIC default list suggests<\/span>. Being a small community bank means you&#8217;re less diversified in assets. So let&#8217;s say you&#8217;re a<br \/>\ncommunity bank in kansas. Your assets are probably all local loans.<span dir=\"ltr\" id=\":po\"> If your town has a bad property market<\/span>, you&#8217;re done for.<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div chat-dir=\"f\" class=\"km\" role=\"chatMessage\">\n<div class=\"kk\">\n<span dir=\"ltr\" id=\":pm\"><\/span><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div id=\":pj\" dir=\"ltr\" class=\"kl\">S<span dir=\"ltr\" id=\":pl\">o you&#8217;re not diversified on the asset side. <\/span>On<br \/>\nthe funding side, honestly, I have no clue, but I doubt that some local<br \/>\nbank in Kansas has access to the capital markets in the same manner and<br \/>\nscope that Goldman or Merrill does. So if a small local bank needs emergency funding<br \/>\nit&#8217;s going to be tough. Goldman needs emergency funding, and they call<br \/>\nWarren Buffet. H<span dir=\"ltr\" id=\":pa\">e writes them a $5 billion check<\/span>.<\/p>\n<div chat-dir=\"\" class=\"kq\" role=\"chatMessage\">\n<div class=\"kp\">\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div chat-dir=\"f\" class=\"km\" role=\"chatMessage\">\n<div class=\"kk\"><b>Derek<\/b><span class=\"kn\" dir=\"ltr\">:&nbsp;<\/span> <span dir=\"ltr\" id=\":p9\">So<br \/>\ndo<br \/>\nyou think it&#8217;s misguided to fetishize the benefits of small banks? Or<br \/>\nis yours more of a Goldilocks position. That small banks lack the<br \/>\nlarger banks&#8217; access, but there&#8217;s a Too-Big-To-Fail tipping point that<br \/>\nwe want to<br \/>\nfind ways to avoid, or at least regulate much more effectively?<\/span><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div chat-dir=\"t\" class=\"km\" role=\"chatMessage\" aria-live=\"assertive\">\n<div id=\":p1\" dir=\"ltr\" class=\"kl\">\n<b>Dr. Gonzo<\/b><span class=\"kn\" dir=\"ltr\">:&nbsp;<\/span> <span dir=\"ltr\" id=\":p8\">Well I&#8217;m fairly agnostic in general<\/span>.<br \/>\nBut I definitely think the small is better thing is pretty unfounded<br \/>\nand runs contrary to common sense, specifically considering<br \/>\ndiversification. I mean, 2008 was all about market risk and assets<br \/>\nhitting the floor at the same time. But just because diversification<br \/>\ndidn&#8217;t work as well as it should, doesn&#8217;t mean that it&#8217;s not useful.<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div chat-dir=\"\" class=\"kq\" role=\"chatMessage\" aria-live=\"polite\">\n<div class=\"kp\">\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div chat-dir=\"t\" class=\"km\" role=\"chatMessage\" aria-live=\"assertive\">\n<div id=\":o9\" dir=\"ltr\" class=\"kl\"><span class=\"kn\" dir=\"ltr\"><\/span><span dir=\"ltr\" id=\":oc\">Yeah, the small bank thing<\/span><br \/>\nis definitely fetishized, and IMHO, not based in any objective theory<br \/>\nor evidence. It&#8217;s just an aesthetic people like to cling to.<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div chat-dir=\"\" class=\"kq\" role=\"chatMessage\" aria-live=\"polite\">\n<div class=\"kp\">\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div chat-dir=\"f\" class=\"km\" role=\"chatMessage\" aria-live=\"assertive\">\n<div class=\"kk\"><b>Derek<\/b><span class=\"kn\" dir=\"ltr\">: <\/span>But<span dir=\"ltr\" id=\":o8\"> people like <a href=\"http:\/\/www.economist.com\/blogs\/freeexchange\/2010\/01\/risk_externality\">Ryan Avent and Felix<br \/>\nSalmon<\/a><br \/>\naren&#8217;t saying: Let&#8217;s regulate Goldman until it devolves into a local<br \/>\nKansas community bank. They&#8217;re saying: There are some taxes that could<br \/>\na) discourage hyperaggressive betting and b) discourage banks from<br \/>\ngrowing so big that the government has no choice but to bail them out. <br \/>\n<\/span><\/div>\n<div id=\":o7\" dir=\"ltr\" class=\"kl\">\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div id=\":nz\" dir=\"ltr\" class=\"kl\"><b>Dr. Gonzo<\/b><span class=\"kn\" dir=\"ltr\">:&nbsp;<\/span>&nbsp;<span dir=\"ltr\" id=\":o6\"><\/span>First<br \/>\noff most of these &#8220;banks&#8221; are not banks. The ones on the FDIC list,<br \/>\nthose are <i>banks<\/i>. They take deposits, make loans, etc.<br \/>\nGoldman and Merrill and so forth, they&#8217;re money centers, financial<br \/>\nintermediaries. Some of them have bank subsidiaries like Citi, but for<br \/>\nthe most part advice on transactions, broker not only ordinary securities but also funding for businesses and hedge funds, act as custodians for securities, and and in some cases, make markets by<br \/>\nbuying and selling instruments like a bookie. It is really the last three functions that make them so<br \/>\nimportant to the financial system.<\/p>\n<div>&nbsp;<\/div>\n<p>So in general I would recommend that we get our vocabulary straight, and then we can have a more precise conversation about what behaviors we&#8217;re trying to change.<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<p><br clear=\"both\" style=\"clear: both;\"\/><br \/>\n<br clear=\"both\" style=\"clear: both;\"\/><br \/>\n  <a style='font-size: 10px; color: maroon;' href='http:\/\/www.pheedcontent.com\/hostedMorselClick.php?hfmm=v3:5c0aa8a17c9bc4a84b1350e781043088:r12RzCgmQq2gj32igO0Nvwy9BkFRnJpPhQBDi6K2%2BgIt5gefU0vMdtEqFQx6Fy90KIkiKQggN1x4'><img border='0' title='Email this Article' alt='Email this Article' src='http:\/\/images.pheedo.com\/images\/mm\/emailthis.png'\/><\/a><br \/>\n  <a style='font-size: 10px; color: maroon;' href='http:\/\/www.pheedcontent.com\/hostedMorselClick.php?hfmm=v3:d8941ecc1fe519b4b27027480a977512:b%2FgNxZ3qhDjI4paBKrPI0X%2FPelBqNw4fu3szsyNvZ83enFdLiOPk6FDZWKVTGtrjV9jHCEejGssh'><img border='0' title='Add to digg' alt='Add to digg' src='http:\/\/images.pheedo.com\/images\/mm\/digg.gif'\/><\/a><br \/>\n  <a style='font-size: 10px; color: maroon;' href='http:\/\/www.pheedcontent.com\/hostedMorselClick.php?hfmm=v3:b7a55ea0450e7f616d239a45f95e4bb3:OzMo5N%2FPdzoMKVeLDFz652BjulTb4KsjT5dMNEWsYSIz1vdpcM7N8LK2DZh4pXtSnu5ms3O9zHJ3'><img border='0' title='Add to Reddit' alt='Add to Reddit' src='http:\/\/images.pheedo.com\/images\/mm\/reddit.png'\/><\/a><br \/>\n  <a style='font-size: 10px; color: maroon;' href='http:\/\/www.pheedcontent.com\/hostedMorselClick.php?hfmm=v3:335f3ca358e2d2d2c0f4db3f72900495:mBlkbgDKdAfxNrPKk8qpaDW58FzYAaagN7fae%2B%2FLSLnDjAUWEggJV1dH7LXqkDtfsRHZE2ySSdDjRQ%3D%3D'><img border='0' title='Add to Twitter' alt='Add to Twitter' src='http:\/\/images.pheedo.com\/images\/mm\/twitter.png'\/><\/a><br \/>\n  <a style='font-size: 10px; color: maroon;' href='http:\/\/www.pheedcontent.com\/hostedMorselClick.php?hfmm=v3:55cb2dc64b40ec2a98eb221addc9bf96:Yf%2Bx6kZtrfFyxMfzLu32vwtp5GTqeKigX3rVqZzNiJrqOvEf4uptmhkq6pQjztmPBkUj%2Fg2d4IH0'><img border='0' title='Add to del.icio.us' alt='Add to del.icio.us' src='http:\/\/images.pheedo.com\/images\/mm\/delicious.gif'\/><\/a><br \/>\n  <a style='font-size: 10px; color: maroon;' href='http:\/\/www.pheedcontent.com\/hostedMorselClick.php?hfmm=v3:e8862bbafecb7a262e89487b832ed24c:en6kXbC%2Fe4MRNvea%2BWiSeRRNX0OZc%2FxqjB1J1eZ%2BOJok%2FSKMZkXD1V5ZpNNry4X60qg9FCrOAuPa4A%3D%3D'><img border='0' title='Add to StumbleUpon' alt='Add to StumbleUpon' src='http:\/\/images.pheedo.com\/images\/mm\/stumbleit.gif'\/><\/a><br \/>\n  <a style='font-size: 10px; color: maroon;' href='http:\/\/www.pheedcontent.com\/hostedMorselClick.php?hfmm=v3:7189d99e2b1d292c066d33d8089a0d7e:tU0qJWwkT6c%2BoEURMlbEsiMohJQkoOwIKNDkhUvogIP63hjqGDSxgg1DL0qWZxzsQQS9vOUn7i71Ew%3D%3D'><img border='0' title='Add to Facebook' alt='Add to Facebook' src='http:\/\/images.pheedo.com\/images\/mm\/facebook.gif'\/><\/a><br \/>\n<br clear=\"both\" style=\"clear: both;\"\/><br \/>\n<a href=\"http:\/\/ads.pheedo.com\/click.phdo?s=e531a7afee6d5f24cdaf12d08a8759ca&#038;p=1\"><img decoding=\"async\" alt=\"\" style=\"border: 0;\" border=\"0\" src=\"http:\/\/ads.pheedo.com\/img.phdo?s=e531a7afee6d5f24cdaf12d08a8759ca&#038;p=1\"\/><\/a><br \/>\n<img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" alt=\"\" height=\"0\" width=\"0\" border=\"0\" style=\"display:none\" src=\"http:\/\/a.rfihub.com\/eus.gif?eui=2225\"\/><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" src=\"http:\/\/feeds.feedburner.com\/~r\/AtlanticBusinessChannel\/~4\/EspZmRa3-Fg\" height=\"1\" width=\"1\"\/><\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>The most important economic debate of 2010 will be how to reform the financial sector to make it more stable. Many of the most popular ideas &#8212; reducing leverage, raising capital requirements, even taxing financial transactions &#8212; rest on the principle that smaller banks support a more stable financial sector. I just wrote a blog [&hellip;]<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":1534,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"footnotes":""},"categories":[7],"tags":[],"class_list":["post-171920","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry","category-news"],"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/mereja.media\/index\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/171920","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/mereja.media\/index\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/mereja.media\/index\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/mereja.media\/index\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/1534"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/mereja.media\/index\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=171920"}],"version-history":[{"count":0,"href":"https:\/\/mereja.media\/index\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/171920\/revisions"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/mereja.media\/index\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=171920"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/mereja.media\/index\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=171920"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/mereja.media\/index\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=171920"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}