{"id":211181,"date":"2010-01-22T02:21:47","date_gmt":"2010-01-22T07:21:47","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/kempton.wordpress.com\/?p=9158"},"modified":"2010-01-22T02:21:47","modified_gmt":"2010-01-22T07:21:47","slug":"intelligence-squared-debate-video-%e2%80%93-california-failure","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/mereja.media\/index\/211181","title":{"rendered":"Intelligence Squared debate video \u2013 (California = Failure)"},"content":{"rendered":"
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Watching debate of the motion “California is the first failed state<\/a><\/strong>” was a lot more fun than I expected. Both me and my better half were “undecided” before watching the debate.<\/p>\n

I will let you watch the debate and judge for yourself first. And then you can read what I have to say after the video clip.<\/p>\n


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My better half changed her vote from “undecided” to\u00a0”against” the motion.\u00a0The sticking point for here are the words “is” and “first” and also if there can be reasonable doubt for the fact that California may not be “failed” yet.<\/p>\n

For me, I changed my vote from “undecided” to “for” the motion.\u00a0I saw the three arguing for the motion being much better in presenting their case than the other side.<\/p>\n

The following are my impressions of the members of the debate teams,<\/p>\n

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  1. FOR\u2013Andreas Kluth (I think Andreas set up the framework for the debate really well and then his performance in the other two segments also helped convince me a bit more.)<\/li>\n
  2. AGAINST\u2013Gray Davis (Strangely, may be it is just me, the act of hearing the governor listing his achievements during his term really detracted from his effort in arguing against the motion. To be honest and a bit blunt, Governor Davis seemed to me the weakest member in both teams.)<\/li>\n
  3. FOR\u2013Sharon Waxman (Great points re Hollywood. And Mr. O\u2019Donnell’s points were so weak and obviously untrue that he lost my respect for his views afterwards.)<\/li>\n
  4. AGAINST\u2013Van Jones (Strongest in the “against” team but not strong enough to make a difference. And a few of the arguments seemed a stretch.)<\/li>\n
  5. FOR\u2013Bobby Shriver (Did a good job in laying out the arguments. It takes some guts for a sitting mayor to argue for the motion\u00a0but his arguments and rationales seem reasoned and sincere.)<\/li>\n
  6. AGAINST\u2013Lawrence O\u2019Donnell (Most of his arguments didn’t help to convince me at all. And of course, there was the credibility issue.)<\/li>\n<\/ol>\n

    By the way, let me be clear. I believe California is a great place but now I know it has a lot of problems as well.<\/p>\n

    [HT Andreas<\/a>]<\/p>\n

    Posted in Economics, ethics, insightful, Law, people, united states, Video \"\"<\/a> \"\"<\/a> \"\"<\/a> \"\"<\/a> \"\"<\/a> \"\"<\/div>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"

    Watching debate of the motion “California is the first failed state” was a lot more fun than I expected. Both me and my better half were “undecided” before watching the debate. I will let you watch the debate and judge for yourself first. And then you can read what I have to say after the […]<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":841,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"footnotes":""},"categories":[7],"tags":[],"class_list":["post-211181","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry","category-news"],"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/mereja.media\/index\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/211181","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/mereja.media\/index\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/mereja.media\/index\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/mereja.media\/index\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/841"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/mereja.media\/index\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=211181"}],"version-history":[{"count":0,"href":"https:\/\/mereja.media\/index\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/211181\/revisions"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/mereja.media\/index\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=211181"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/mereja.media\/index\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=211181"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/mereja.media\/index\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=211181"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}