{"id":217311,"date":"2010-01-23T17:18:47","date_gmt":"2010-01-23T22:18:47","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/www.skyscrapercity.com\/showthread.php?t=1052249"},"modified":"2010-01-23T17:18:47","modified_gmt":"2010-01-23T22:18:47","slug":"skywalks","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/mereja.media\/index\/217311","title":{"rendered":"Skywalks"},"content":{"rendered":"<div>I couldn&#8217;t help but notice several Indianapolis forumers talking up skywalks in their JW Marriot thread and instead of starting a mini-debate within an unrelated thread, I thought we should all talk about it in a new thread.<\/p>\n<div style=\"margin:20px; margin-top:5px; \">\n<div class=\"smallfont\" style=\"margin-bottom:2px\">Quote:<\/div>\n<table cellpadding=\"6\" cellspacing=\"0\" border=\"0\" width=\"100%\">\n<tr>\n<td class=\"alt2\">\n<hr \/>\n<div>\n\t\t\t\t\tOriginally Posted by <strong>Sunday_Bloody_Sundae<\/strong><br \/>\n\t\t\t\t\t(Post 50483623)\n\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n<div style=\"font-style:italic\">It would be nice if the skywalk system could grow large enough to connect all of the major buildings downtown, or atleast somehow connect to Conseco.<\/div>\n<hr \/>\n<\/td>\n<\/tr>\n<\/table>\n<\/div>\n<div style=\"margin:20px; margin-top:5px; \">\n<div class=\"smallfont\" style=\"margin-bottom:2px\">Quote:<\/div>\n<table cellpadding=\"6\" cellspacing=\"0\" border=\"0\" width=\"100%\">\n<tr>\n<td class=\"alt2\">\n<hr \/>\n<div>\n\t\t\t\t\tOriginally Posted by <strong>MilwaukeeMark<\/strong><br \/>\n\t\t\t\t\t(Post 50593335)\n\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n<div style=\"font-style:italic\">Are you nuts?  Do you want to be the next Charlotte with their Overstreet Mall?  Skywalks may be useful if you&#8217;re looking to escape the cold during that one random day during your walk downtown&#8230; but people use them regardless of weather.  That said, it completely removes pedestrian traffic from the street.  Result?  Deprivation from the rich vibrancy of your city and cut off access to any retail tenant not willing to fork over the ridiculous rental prices charged for dedicated access points.<\/p>\n<p>Very few cities actually make it work&#8230; St. Paul is the only one that comes to mind but at what cost?  Something like 90% of their shops are on the second floor!  Ever walk around their downtown?  There are literally huge banks of blank walls.  It&#8217;s hilariously disgusting for a city-lover such as myself.<\/p>\n<p>Seattle is the only city with skywalk-sense.  They passed an ordinance in the 80&#8217;s that &quot;prohibits any skybridge that blocks a vista<br \/>\nor reduces street traffic &#8212; in effect, all skywalks.&quot; (<a href=\"http:\/\/www.utahstories.com\/graphics\/Preserving%20Life%20on%20the%20Street%5B1%5D.pdf\" >source<\/a>).  I&#8217;ve never been to downtown Seattle but I LOVE them for this.  Banning pedestrian freeways?  Awesome.<\/p>\n<p>So please, please, please don&#8217;t start a new push to revitalize a decades-old failed attempt to steal thunder from suburban shopping malls by instituting a giant network of tubes above the city streets.  It&#8217;s absurd.<\/p><\/div>\n<hr \/>\n<\/td>\n<\/tr>\n<\/table>\n<\/div>\n<p>With regard to a conversation he had with an Indy development insider on a plane:<\/p>\n<div style=\"margin:20px; margin-top:5px; \">\n<div class=\"smallfont\" style=\"margin-bottom:2px\">Quote:<\/div>\n<table cellpadding=\"6\" cellspacing=\"0\" border=\"0\" width=\"100%\">\n<tr>\n<td class=\"alt2\">\n<hr \/>\n<div>\n\t\t\t\t\tOriginally Posted by <strong>Round Rock<\/strong><br \/>\n\t\t\t\t\t(Post 50604169)\n\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n<div style=\"font-style:italic\">He had mentioned that there &quot;could&quot; be a skywalk from Penn Center across Georgia through the CSX building and over the railroad tracks to Ralston Square.  He mentioned going over Georgia Street fairly close in front of Conseco isn&#8217;t classified as a &quot;protected view&quot; like Meridian and Market Streets, so doing a skywalk shouldn&#8217;t be hindered by that. Then the skywalk would connect to Ralston Square and from there go over the Meridian Street bridge, just like the cross walk will do over Capital Avenue bridge from the Crown Plaza to the Convention Center Expansion.  Then from the top of the Meridian street bridge it will go into the train shed of Union Station where the old food court and stage were on the second floor and work its way to through the crown plaza to to the convention center.<\/div>\n<hr \/>\n<\/td>\n<\/tr>\n<\/table>\n<\/div>\n<div style=\"margin:20px; margin-top:5px; \">\n<div class=\"smallfont\" style=\"margin-bottom:2px\">Quote:<\/div>\n<table cellpadding=\"6\" cellspacing=\"0\" border=\"0\" width=\"100%\">\n<tr>\n<td class=\"alt2\">\n<hr \/>\n<div>\n\t\t\t\t\tOriginally Posted by <strong>pattyco7<\/strong><br \/>\n\t\t\t\t\t(Post 50629909)\n\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n<div style=\"font-style:italic\">As I stated before. Skywalks are for WIMPS. Once it gets built people are going to use it year round regardless of the weather. And this will greatly reduce pedestrian traffic. It&#8217;s no wonder why our downtown streets are lifeless and empty.<\/div>\n<hr \/>\n<\/td>\n<\/tr>\n<\/table>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>I couldn&#8217;t help but notice several Indianapolis forumers talking up skywalks in their JW Marriot thread and instead of starting a mini-debate within an unrelated thread, I thought we should all talk about it in a new thread. Quote: Originally Posted by Sunday_Bloody_Sundae (Post 50483623) It would be nice if the skywalk system could grow [&hellip;]<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":3987,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"footnotes":""},"categories":[7],"tags":[],"class_list":["post-217311","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry","category-news"],"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/mereja.media\/index\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/217311","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/mereja.media\/index\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/mereja.media\/index\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/mereja.media\/index\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/3987"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/mereja.media\/index\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=217311"}],"version-history":[{"count":0,"href":"https:\/\/mereja.media\/index\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/217311\/revisions"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/mereja.media\/index\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=217311"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/mereja.media\/index\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=217311"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/mereja.media\/index\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=217311"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}