{"id":225475,"date":"2010-01-24T23:26:00","date_gmt":"2010-01-25T04:26:00","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/www.rhrealitycheck.org\/blog\/2010\/01\/23\/hyde-hpv-and-her-lady-business"},"modified":"2010-01-24T23:30:30","modified_gmt":"2010-01-25T04:30:30","slug":"hyde-hpv-and-her-lady-business","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/mereja.media\/index\/225475","title":{"rendered":"Hyde, HPV, and Her Lady Business"},"content":{"rendered":"<div class=\"1pxplayer\">\n      <script language=\"JavaScript\" src=\"http:\/\/www.rhrealitycheck.org\/sites\/all\/modules\/podcast\/1pixelout\/audio-player.js\"><\/script><br \/>\n      <object type=\"application\/x-shockwave-flash\" data=\"http:\/\/www.rhrealitycheck.org\/sites\/all\/modules\/podcast\/1pixelout\/player.swf\" id=\"audioplayer1\" height=\"24\" width=\"290\"><param name=\"movie\" value=\"http:\/\/www.rhrealitycheck.org\/sites\/all\/modules\/podcast\/1pixelout\/player.swf\"><param name=\"FlashVars\" value=\"playerID=1&amp;soundFile=http:\/\/s3.amazonaws.com\/RealityCasts\/RH_realitycast_120.mp3\"><param name=\"quality\" value=\"high\"><param name=\"menu\" value=\"false\"><param name=\"wmode\" value=\"transparent\"><\/object>\n      <\/div>\n<div class=\"podcast-download\"><a href=\"http:\/\/s3.amazonaws.com\/RealityCasts\/RH_realitycast_120.mp3\" title=\"Download\"><img decoding=\"async\" src=\"http:\/\/www.rhrealitycheck.org\/sites\/all\/modules\/podcast\/podcast-dl-small.gif\" alt=\"Download\" \/><\/a><\/div>\n<p>  The history of menstruation, the political prejudices against scientific information on the HPV vaccine, and fighting against the Hyde Amendment, all on this week&#8217;s podcast.<\/p>\n<p>\n&nbsp;\n<\/p>\n<p>\n<strong>Subscribe to RealityCast:<\/strong><br \/>\n<a href=\"http:\/\/phobos.apple.com\/WebObjects\/MZStore.woa\/wa\/viewPodcast?id=263499022\">RealityCast iTunes subscription<\/a><br \/>\n<a href=\"http:\/\/feeds.feedburner.com\/RealityCast\">RealityCast RSS feed<\/a>\n<\/p>\n<p>\n<strong>Links in this episode:<\/strong>\n<\/p>\n<p>\n<a href=\"http:\/\/www.bluemassgroup.com\/diary\/18410\/bmg-exclusive-scott-brown-thought-maybe-obama-was-born-out-of-wedlock\">Scott Brown&#8217;s innuendo <\/a>\n<\/p>\n<p>\n<a href=\"http:\/\/www.youtube.com\/watch?v=yFek_7v3jt4\">Repeal the Hyde Amendment <\/a>\n<\/p>\n<p>\n<a href=\"http:\/\/www.prx.org\/pieces\/43978-hyde-ing-the-right-to-choose\">More on the Hyde Amendment <\/a>\n<\/p>\n<p>\n<a href=\"http:\/\/www.nnaf.org\/policy_report.html\">And even more on the Hyde Amendment <\/a>\n<\/p>\n<p>\n<a href=\"http:\/\/lauraflanders.firedoglake.com\/2010\/01\/15\/reproductive-rights-as-human-rights\/\">The big picture on abortion rights <\/a>\n<\/p>\n<p>\n<a href=\"http:\/\/www.nsf.gov\/news\/news_videos.jsp?cntn_id=116186&amp;media_id=66157&amp;org=NSF\">Who&#8217;s afraid of the HPV vaccine? <\/a>\n<\/p>\n<p>\n<a href=\"http:\/\/crooksandliars.com\/david-neiwert\/sarah-palin-defends-her-lie-year-cla\">Zombie lies<\/a>\n<\/p>\n<p>\n&nbsp;\n<\/p>\n<p>\nOn this episode of Reality Cast, I&#8217;ll be interviewing Elisa<br \/>\nStein about the history of menstruation.\u00a0<br \/>\nAlso, can anger about Stupak-Pitts be marshaled to push back against the<br \/>\nHyde Amendment?\u00a0 And I also have a<br \/>\nsegment on how pre-existing prejudice about health and sexuality determine<br \/>\npeople&#8217;s opinions on the HPV vaccine.\n<\/p>\n<p>\n&nbsp;\n<\/p>\n<p>\nSo, this is kind of weird.\u00a0 Blue Mass Group discovered a 2008 video of teabagger beloved<br \/>\ncandidate Scott Brown implying that Barack Obama was born out of wedlock.\u00a0\n<\/p>\n<p>\n&nbsp;\n<\/p>\n<ul>\n<li>brown<br \/>\n\t*<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<p>\n&nbsp;\n<\/p>\n<p>\nI hate things like this, because by demanding that Brown<br \/>\napologize, you kind of imply that it matters.\u00a0 And it shouldn&#8217;t matter if a President&#8217;s parents were<br \/>\nmarried or not.\u00a0\n<\/p>\n<p>\n&nbsp;\n<\/p>\n<p>\nDespite baffling statements like this, the voters of<br \/>\nMassachusetts handed Scott Brown the seat Ted Kennedy had held since 1962.\n<\/p>\n<p>\n&nbsp;\n<\/p>\n<p>\n************\n<\/p>\n<p>\nFrom the beginning, one of the major problems I had with the<br \/>\npush to maintain the so-called status quo on abortion in health care reform was<br \/>\nthat it seemed like doing that instead of pushing back against the<br \/>\nalready-existing ban on federal abortion spending under the Hyde Amendment was<br \/>\nfundamentally unfair.\u00a0 The status<br \/>\nquo would mean that women that were in the private insurance circuit, which<br \/>\nmeans they&#8217;re not at the bottom economic rung, would have access to abortion<br \/>\ncoverage and women on Medicaid would not.\u00a0<br \/>\nAnd it seems very unfeminist to leave out the most vulnerable among us.<br \/>\nPlus, abandoning the issue allowed the right wingers to move the bill to the<br \/>\nright and eliminate the ability of private insurance to offer funding.\n<\/p>\n<p>\n&nbsp;\n<\/p>\n<p>\nIt&#8217;s true that most of the women that will be negatively<br \/>\naffected by Stupak-Pitts are lower income women, so as far as that goes, the<br \/>\noutcry over this has been heartening.\u00a0<br \/>\nBut it&#8217;s not enough, not if we don&#8217;t go after the Hyde Amendment.\u00a0 And that&#8217;s because even without<br \/>\nStupak-Pitts, the Hyde Amendment will hurt millions of women.\n<\/p>\n<p>\n&nbsp;\n<\/p>\n<ul>\n<li>hyde 1<br \/>\n\t*<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<p>\n&nbsp;\n<\/p>\n<p>\nThat was from a video put out by the Center for Reproductive<br \/>\nRights.\u00a0 Full disclosure: I&#8217;m in<br \/>\nthe video myself.\u00a0 The good news is<br \/>\nthat the Center has decided that we need to move past just talking about<br \/>\nStupak-Pitts and start talking about the entire logic behind restricting<br \/>\nabortion funding, and attack the Hyde Amendment straight on.\u00a0 And so they asked us what we don&#8217;t want<br \/>\nour tax money spent on, which is only fair.\u00a0 Why should anti-choicers get special treatment?\n<\/p>\n<p>\n&nbsp;\n<\/p>\n<ul>\n<li>hyde 2<br \/>\n\t*<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<p>\n&nbsp;\n<\/p>\n<p>\nThose are just some of the ones they gathered.\u00a0 If you go to the link in the show notes,<br \/>\nyou&#8217;ll find instructions on submitting one of your own.\u00a0\n<\/p>\n<p>\n&nbsp;\n<\/p>\n<p>\nWhat&#8217;s made me really happy is that the Center for<br \/>\nReproductive Rights aren&#8217;t the only ones who are seeing the bigger picture<br \/>\nhere.\u00a0 This whole debacle is<br \/>\ncausing a whole lot of people to talk about reproductive justice and how a<br \/>\nwoman&#8217;s inability to scrounge up $500 in short order shouldn&#8217;t mean she should<br \/>\nbe forced to give birth against her will.\u00a0\n<\/p>\n<p>\n&nbsp;\n<\/p>\n<p>\n&quot;Making Contact&quot; of the National Radio Project dealt with<br \/>\nthe issue of how the original sin that&#8217;s created this mess is the Hyde<br \/>\nAmendment, and how the Hyde Amendment continues to hurt women.\u00a0\n<\/p>\n<p>\n&nbsp;\n<\/p>\n<ul>\n<li>hyde 3<br \/>\n\t*<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<p>\n&nbsp;\n<\/p>\n<p>\nAccording to the National Network of Abortion Funds, it&#8217;s<br \/>\nestimated that one in three low income women who want an abortion are instead<br \/>\nforced to give birth against their will because they can&#8217;t afford it.\u00a0 That&#8217;s an unbelievable human rights<br \/>\nviolation in what&#8217;s supposed to be a pro-choice era.\u00a0 Singling out poor women for forced pregnancy because they&#8217;re<br \/>\npoor is not the America I was brought up to believe in.\u00a0 There&#8217;s no other way for me to put<br \/>\nthat, even if it sounds extreme.\n<\/p>\n<p>\n&nbsp;\n<\/p>\n<p>\nTaking the time to look at the big picture isn&#8217;t just<br \/>\nlimited to looking at the Hyde Amendment, either.\u00a0 Lynn Paltrow was on Grit TV, and she talked about how<br \/>\nabortion is used as a cover to attack women&#8217;s health and rights in<br \/>\ngeneral.\u00a0\n<\/p>\n<p>\n&nbsp;\n<\/p>\n<ul>\n<li>hyde 4<br \/>\n\t*<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<p>\n&nbsp;\n<\/p>\n<p>\nAnd just to prove how true this was, Laura Flanders played<br \/>\nthis anti-choice video clip:\n<\/p>\n<p>\n&nbsp;\n<\/p>\n<ul>\n<li>hyde 5<br \/>\n\t*<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<p>\n&nbsp;\n<\/p>\n<p>\nAny fool can tell you that there is more to reproductive<br \/>\nhealth care than abortion&#8212;it includes Pap smears, contraception, prenatal<br \/>\ncare, childbirth care, and other gynecological care.\u00a0 By calling all of this &quot;abortion&quot;, fanatical anti-choicers<br \/>\nhave basically declared open season on women&#8217;s right to health care.\u00a0 Makes you wonder how exactly they&#8217;re<br \/>\ndifferent from the Taliban that banned all women&#8217;s health care that involved a<br \/>\ndoctor actually seeing a woman&#8217;s body.\u00a0<br \/>\nMeans sacrificing women&#8217;s lives for this fanatical hatred of female<br \/>\nsexuality.\n<\/p>\n<p>\n&nbsp;\n<\/p>\n<p>\n*********\n<\/p>\n<p>\nInsert interview\n<\/p>\n<p>\n*********\n<\/p>\n<p>\nThanks to the National Science Foundation for both having Yale University Law professor Dr. Dan Kahan on their webcast to<br \/>\ntalk about the political controversy over the HPV vaccine, and for alerting me<br \/>\nto the existence of this webcast.\u00a0<br \/>\nIt was really interesting information.\u00a0 Dr. Kahan and his colleagues created a survey of 1,500<br \/>\npeople to figure out who was scared of the HPV vaccine, and what their general<br \/>\nattitudes were that might lead them to be afraid of the vaccine.\u00a0 What they found shouldn&#8217;t be too<br \/>\nsurprising.\n<\/p>\n<p>\n&nbsp;\n<\/p>\n<ul>\n<li>hpv 1 *<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<p>\n&nbsp;\n<\/p>\n<p>\nWhat&#8217;s interesting to me is that until<br \/>\nrecently, the link between right wing nuttery and anti-scientific thinking was<br \/>\nnot so firm.\u00a0 Even now, most<br \/>\nanti-vaccination nuttery comes from the left, except when it comes to the HPV<br \/>\nvaccine, which is a right wing hysteria issue.\u00a0 But increasingly, you&#8217;re seeing the right wing just take a<br \/>\nmore generalized anti-science stance, especially on issues that they see as being<br \/>\nin conflict with their values.\u00a0<br \/>\nResearch that leads to better, more effectively lethal weapons will<br \/>\nnever be questioned, but here you have a vaccine that will save the lives of<br \/>\nsexually active women, and we can&#8217;t have that!\n<\/p>\n<p>\n&nbsp;\n<\/p>\n<p>\nThe team assembled used the standard<br \/>\nmeasurement system to determine someone&#8217;s political values, which are measured<br \/>\non two spectrums: one that measures if you&#8217;re more authoritarian or<br \/>\negalitarian, and one that measures if you&#8217;re more oriented towards community<br \/>\nsolutions or if you see the world as every man for himself.\u00a0 What they found was that your values<br \/>\ninfluenced how open you were to accepting scientific evidence about the HPV<br \/>\nvaccine.\n<\/p>\n<p>\n&nbsp;\n<\/p>\n<ul>\n<li>hpv 2 *<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<p>\n&nbsp;\n<\/p>\n<p>\nAgain, nothing surprising there.\u00a0 What it does make me realize, however,<br \/>\nis why there are some people on the left who have gotten all bent out of shape<br \/>\nabout vaccines, even though that sort of thing would generally be seen as a<br \/>\nmore right wing inclination.\u00a0 And<br \/>\nit really goes back to that individual initiative, which is a nice way of saying<br \/>\nthat some people believe they&#8217;ll be safe if they have a highly moralistic<br \/>\nbehavior pattern and that they don&#8217;t need others to help them because of<br \/>\nthis.\u00a0 A lot of left wing types who<br \/>\nfear vaccines that I&#8217;ve met have basically said that you don&#8217;t need vaccines if<br \/>\nyou eat right and avoid promiscuous sex.\u00a0<br \/>\nThis is of course untrue, but it really shows why they might think that<br \/>\ngetting a vaccine is some sort of judgment on their morals, instead of just a<br \/>\nbasic precaution.\u00a0 But they&#8217;re<br \/>\nstill on the left, because they&#8217;re more egalitarian and less authoritarian.\n<\/p>\n<p>\n&nbsp;\n<\/p>\n<p>\nOne of the most interesting findings of<br \/>\nthe study was that if you put the information in the mouth of an expert that<br \/>\npeople find culturally agreeable, then that can often completely reverse their<br \/>\nnormal inclinations.\u00a0 The<br \/>\nimplications of this study are dire.\n<\/p>\n<p>\n&nbsp;\n<\/p>\n<ul>\n<li>hpv 3 *<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<p>\nDoes that mean that it&#8217;s hopeless, that<br \/>\nanti-scientific right wingers are going to hijack the discussion about HPV to<br \/>\nthe point that CDC recommendations that could effectively make cervical cancer<br \/>\na thing of the past will never get enacted?\u00a0 Dr. Kahan does have one idea how to get around this problem.\n<\/p>\n<p>\n&nbsp;\n<\/p>\n<ul>\n<li>hpv 4 *<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<p>\n&nbsp;\n<\/p>\n<p>\nIt&#8217;s a really good idea, but in order<br \/>\nto get there, you need to drum those people up.\u00a0 On some issues, that&#8217;s not a problem, but when it comes to<br \/>\nwomen&#8217;s health care, the distaste for women&#8217;s health is often perceived as a<br \/>\nvalue that makes someone trustworthy on the right.\u00a0 Appearing to care too much for women can undermine their<br \/>\nauthority.\u00a0 On this issue, however,<br \/>\nit may be somewhat doable&#8212;it&#8217;s at least worth trying to recruit some right<br \/>\nwingers who are predisposed to really hate cervical cancer to speak out on this<br \/>\nissue.\n<\/p>\n<p>\n&nbsp;\n<\/p>\n<p>\n************\n<\/p>\n<p>\n\u00a0And now for the Wisdom of Wingnuts, zombie lies edition.\u00a0 Sarah Palin will not stop lying about<br \/>\ndeath panels being in the health care bill.\u00a0\n<\/p>\n<p>\n&nbsp;\n<\/p>\n<ul>\n<li>palin *<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<p>\n&nbsp;\n<\/p>\n<p>\nNotice the lie by implication built in<br \/>\nby Sean Hannity?\u00a0 By using the word<br \/>\n&quot;still&quot;, he implies there ever were death panels.\u00a0 There weren&#8217;t.\u00a0<br \/>\nThen Sarah Palin drops two doozy lies, one by claiming the Brits have<br \/>\ndeath panels and that we modeled this bill after England.\u00a0 Both are outrageous lies.\u00a0 The Brits do not kill off their<br \/>\nelderly. And they have a single payer system, which wasn&#8217;t even considered<br \/>\nduring the debate in this country.\u00a0\n<\/p>\n<p>\u00a0<br \/>\n<\/p>\n<p>\n&nbsp;<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>The history of menstruation, the political prejudices against scientific information on the HPV vaccine, and fighting against the Hyde Amendment, all on this week&#8217;s podcast. &nbsp; Subscribe to RealityCast: RealityCast iTunes subscription RealityCast RSS feed Links in this episode: Scott Brown&#8217;s innuendo Repeal the Hyde Amendment More on the Hyde Amendment And even more on [&hellip;]<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":1,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"footnotes":""},"categories":[7],"tags":[],"class_list":["post-225475","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry","category-news"],"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/mereja.media\/index\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/225475","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/mereja.media\/index\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/mereja.media\/index\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/mereja.media\/index\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/1"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/mereja.media\/index\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=225475"}],"version-history":[{"count":0,"href":"https:\/\/mereja.media\/index\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/225475\/revisions"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/mereja.media\/index\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=225475"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/mereja.media\/index\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=225475"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/mereja.media\/index\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=225475"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}