{"id":242543,"date":"2010-01-28T13:47:01","date_gmt":"2010-01-28T18:47:01","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/www.grist.org\/article\/2010-01-28-ben-nelsons-logically-incoherent-stance-on-cap-and-trade\/"},"modified":"2010-01-28T13:47:01","modified_gmt":"2010-01-28T18:47:01","slug":"ben-nelsons-logically-incoherent-stance-on-cap-and-trade","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/mereja.media\/index\/242543","title":{"rendered":"Ben Nelson&#8217;s logically incoherent stance on cap-and-trade"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>\t\t\t\tby Brad Johnson <\/p>\n<p>Cross-posted from <a href=\"http:\/\/wonkroom.thinkprogress.org\/2010\/01\/27\/nelson-makes-no-sense\/\">The Wonk Room<\/a>.<\/p>\n<p><\/p>\n<p>There seems to be something about climate policy that encourages senators to take positions that are <a href=\"http:\/\/wonkroom.thinkprogress.org\/2009\/07\/13\/lamar-nuke-pipe-dream\/\">logically impossible<\/a>.<br \/>In the latest instance, Sen. Ben Nelson (D-Neb.) has now managed to<br \/>simultaneously oppose and support a carbon command-and-control regime.<br \/>Nelson is <a href=\"http:\/\/wonkroom.thinkprogress.org\/2010\/01\/22\/nelson-murky-democrat\/\">one of three Democrats<\/a> to co-sponsor Sen. Lisa Murkowski&#8217;s (R-Ark.) resolution overturning the EPA&#8217;s greenhouse gas endangerment finding, supposedly because &#8220;<a href=\"http:\/\/bennelson.senate.gov\/press\/press_releases\/012110-01.cfm\">EPA regulations<\/a> would be a government-directed command-and-control regime:&#8221;<\/p>\n<p><\/p>\n<p>I am very concerned about the impact on Nebraska if EPA<\/p>\n<p>moves to regulate carbon emissions. Many Nebraska agricultural,<\/p>\n<p>industrial, and energy-related businesses and organizations have warned<\/p>\n<p>about the costs they would have to shoulder from EPA regulations. <strong>Because<\/p>\n<p>EPA regulations would be a government-directed command-and-control<\/p>\n<p>regime, they would raise the price of energy in Nebraska, add greatly<\/p>\n<p>to administrative costs, and create new layers of bureaucracy<\/strong>. The burden would fall squarely on Nebraska families, farmers, and businesses.<\/p>\n<p><\/p>\n<p>The EPA&#8217;s rules will function as a soft cap on large emitters of<br \/>global warming pollution, most of whom are already covered by Clean Air<br \/>Act permits for traditional pollution. No new layers of bureaucracy<br \/>will be created. However, the cost of fossil-based energy would slowly<br \/>rise. Because it would be legally difficult for the EPA to establish an<br \/>emissions trading system, companies could not use market means to<br \/>mitigate those costs.<\/p>\n<p><\/p>\n<p>The ability of trading markets to reduce compliance costs for<br \/>pollution reduction is the key selling point of a congressionally<br \/>established cap-and-trade market as opposed to a command-and-control<br \/>regime. However, Nelson has also indicated he <a href=\"http:\/\/www.nytimes.com\/cwire\/2010\/01\/27\/27climatewire-got-ideas-about-a-climate-bill-kerry-graham-64375.html?pagewanted=2\">opposes a cap-and-trade system<\/a>:<\/p>\n<p><\/p>\n<p>Nelson said he has not had detailed conversations yet with Kerry, Graham, and Lieberman. But he said he is open to negotiations on setting a limit on greenhouse gas emissions. &#8220;I want to see what the legislation does,&#8221; he said. &#8220;<strong>I said I can support cap. I have trouble with cap-and-trade, the trade part of it<\/strong>. So if it&#8217;s cap-and-trade, watered down, and it&#8217;s only the trade watered down, that won&#8217;t satisfy me.&#8221;<\/p>\n<p><\/p>\n<p>A cap without &#8220;trade&#8221; is by definition a<br \/>command-and-control regime&#8212;which Nelson has said he opposes on<br \/>economic grounds. But he claims to oppose a cap with &#8220;trade&#8221; on <a href=\"http:\/\/wonkroom.thinkprogress.org\/2009\/11\/03\/nelson-prairie-hypocrite\/\">populist grounds<\/a>.<br \/>In short, he&#8217;s using logically inconsistent excuses to block both<br \/>executive branch and legislative branch action on global warming.<\/p>\n<p><\/p>\n<p>Nelson may be trying to pander to polls, which show that the phrase &#8220;cap-and-trade&#8221; <a href=\"http:\/\/feeds.grist.org\/article\/2009-06-25-polls-cap-and-trade\">is unpopular<\/a> by comparison to Americans&#8217; desire for the government to regulate<br \/>polluters and support clean energy investment. Or maybe he&#8217;s pandering<br \/>to his corporate polluter donors, who need senators like Nelson to<br \/>maintain the Bush-Cheney status quo.<\/p>\n<p><strong>Related Links:<\/strong><\/p>\n<p><a href=\"http:\/\/www.grist.org\/article\/2010-02-01-digging-into-obamas-2011-budget\/\">Digging into Obama&#8217;s 2011 budget on energy and the environment<\/a><\/p>\n<p><a href=\"http:\/\/www.grist.org\/article\/2010-01-28-cap-and-trade-death-knell-revisited-and-revised\/\">Cap-and-trade death knell, revisited and revised<\/a><\/p>\n<p><a href=\"http:\/\/www.grist.org\/article\/2010-01-27-the-death-knell-for-comprehensive-cap-and-trade\/\">The death knell for comprehensive cap-and-trade<\/a><\/p>\n<p>\t\t\t<br clear=\"both\" style=\"clear: both;\"\/><br \/>\n<br clear=\"both\" style=\"clear: both;\"\/><br \/>\n<a href=\"http:\/\/ads.pheedo.com\/click.phdo?s=3f21a057c0bfe38ef4c0c2021265906d&#038;p=1\"><img decoding=\"async\" alt=\"\" style=\"border: 0;\" border=\"0\" src=\"http:\/\/ads.pheedo.com\/img.phdo?s=3f21a057c0bfe38ef4c0c2021265906d&#038;p=1\"\/><\/a><br \/>\n<img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" alt=\"\" height=\"0\" width=\"0\" border=\"0\" style=\"display:none\" src=\"http:\/\/a.rfihub.com\/eus.gif?eui=2223\"\/><\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>by Brad Johnson Cross-posted from The Wonk Room. There seems to be something about climate policy that encourages senators to take positions that are logically impossible.In the latest instance, Sen. Ben Nelson (D-Neb.) has now managed tosimultaneously oppose and support a carbon command-and-control regime.Nelson is one of three Democrats to co-sponsor Sen. Lisa Murkowski&#8217;s (R-Ark.) 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