{"id":273103,"date":"2010-02-03T12:45:00","date_gmt":"2010-02-03T17:45:00","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/www.businessinsider.com\/what-bill-gross-really-thinks-the-us-economy-is-screwed-2010-2"},"modified":"2010-02-03T12:45:00","modified_gmt":"2010-02-03T17:45:00","slug":"what-bill-gross-really-thinks-the-us-economy-is-screwed","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/mereja.media\/index\/273103","title":{"rendered":"What Bill Gross Really Thinks: The US Economy Is Screwed"},"content":{"rendered":"<p><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"float_right\" src=\"http:\/\/static.businessinsider.com\/image\/4b44e94600000000008b2ff2-349-262\/erin-burnett-bill-gross-dancing.jpg\" border=\"0\" alt=\"erin-burnett-bill-gross-dancing\" width=\"349\" height=\"262\" \/><\/p>\n<p><em>(This guest post originally appeared at the <a href=\"http:\/\/pragcap.com\/guru-outlook-bond-kin\">author&#8217;s blog<\/a>)<\/em><\/p>\n<p>James Carville, the famed political strategist once said:<\/p>\n<blockquote>\n<p>&rdquo; I used to think if there was reincarnation, I wanted to come back as the President, or the pope, or a .400 baseball hitter.&nbsp; But now I want to come back as the bond market.&nbsp; You can intimidate everybody.&rdquo;<\/p>\n<\/blockquote>\n<p>In today&rsquo;s world, the bond market runs through Bill Gross, the Founder and CEO of PIMCO.&nbsp; The soft spoken Californian, former professional blackjack player and billionaire, oversees over one trillion (with a T) dollars in assets under management.&nbsp;&nbsp; He has been referred to as the 4th branch of the U.S. government and with the bond market under his thumb it&rsquo;s not a stretch to say that <a href=\"http:\/\/pragcap.com\/the-most-powerful-people-in-the-world\" >he is the most powerful man in the United States<\/a>.<\/p>\n<p>His current outlook for the U.S. economy is <a href=\"http:\/\/pragcap.com\/the-ring-of-fire\" >not particularly rosy (read his latest outlook here)<\/a>.&nbsp; Gross recently coined the term &ldquo;the new normal&rdquo; when talking about the post-crisis economy.&nbsp; He believes the global economy has been effectively reset as investors take on less risk, <a href=\"http:\/\/pragcap.com\/total-debt-to-gdp-trumps-everything-else\" >de-leverage the mountain of debt<\/a>, regulation hampers growth and de-globalization takes hold.&nbsp;&nbsp; He believes this is best presented by the low expectations in the bond market where 10 year treasuries, at 3.5%, are still positioned for very meager economic growth.&nbsp; He says we are entering a sustained period of l<a href=\"http:\/\/pragcap.com\/why-deflation-remains-the-greater-risk\" >ow growth and low inflation<\/a>.<\/p>\n<p>A year ago, Gross was seen as a co-conspirator of sorts in the government bailouts.&nbsp; As the U.S. government began to take stakes in financial institutions Gross jumped in head first with them.&nbsp; He piled his firm&rsquo;s assets into the riskiest of risky assets in what turned out to be a brilliantly simple bet &ndash; the U.S. government won&rsquo;t let these assets fail therefore, we are wise to invest along side them.&nbsp; It couldn&rsquo;t have worked out much better for the bond king.&nbsp;&nbsp; He is rumored to have netted $1.7B alone on the day of the Fannie and Freddie bailouts.&nbsp;&nbsp; Some saw it as talking his book and asking for his own bailout.&nbsp; Others see it as unrivaled power and brilliance.<\/p>\n<p>Gross believes the U.S. economic recovery has been largely based on the stimulus and that the economy <a href=\"http:\/\/pragcap.com\/when-the-fed-finally-stops\" >could suffer a relapse when the stimulus is finally removed<\/a>.&nbsp; In preparation he says investors are wise to move money into stable, conservative income generating assets.&nbsp; He also says assets are likely to move from debt-laden governments such as the U.S and U.K. into those who were more fiscally responsible such as Germany and China.<\/p>\n<p>So where is an investor to look for high quality, stable and conservative fixed income assets in this low yield, high risk environment?&nbsp;&nbsp; At the 2010 Barron&rsquo;s roundtable Gross made a number of suggestions.&nbsp; He currently likes the Reaves Utility Income fund (ticker: UTG) which is a stable utility fund yielding 7.25%.&nbsp; He also likes the PIMCO Corporate Opportunity a high yield corporate bond fund that Gross himself manages.&nbsp; It yields a juicy 13%.&nbsp; In terms of specific bonds Gross still likes to trade along side the government.&nbsp; He recommends investors look into the GMAC 8% due 2031 and the AIG 8.25% due 2018.<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"http:\/\/pragcap.com\/\"><strong>Read more market commentary at The Pragmatic Capitalist &gt;<\/strong><\/a><\/p>\n<p><a href=\"http:\/\/www.businessinsider.com\/what-bill-gross-really-thinks-the-us-economy-is-screwed-2010-2#comments\">Join the conversation about this story &#187;<\/a><\/p>\n<p><b>See Also:<\/b><\/p>\n<ul>\n<li><a href=\"http:\/\/www.businessinsider.com\/uk-economy-sitting-on-nitroglycerin-says-gross-2010-1\">Bill Gross: The U.K. Rests On A Pile of &#8216;Nitroglycerine&#8217;<\/a><\/li>\n<li><a href=\"http:\/\/www.businessinsider.com\/pimcos-ring-of-fire-chart-shows-the-true-state-of-sovereign-debt-2010-1\">PIMCO: The US Falls Into The Sovereign Debt Ring Of Fire<\/a><\/li>\n<li><a href=\"http:\/\/www.businessinsider.com\/el-erian-the-market-is-way-too-complacent-here-comes-another-big-leg-down-for-stocks-2010-2\">El-Erian: The Market Is WAY Too Complacent, Persistent Unemployment Will Cause Everything To Come Unglued<\/a><\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<p><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" src=\"http:\/\/feeds.feedburner.com\/~r\/TheMoneyGame\/~4\/6zR9PdoPKcI\" height=\"1\" width=\"1\"\/><\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>(This guest post originally appeared at the author&#8217;s blog) James Carville, the famed political strategist once said: &rdquo; I used to think if there was reincarnation, I wanted to come back as the President, or the pope, or a .400 baseball hitter.&nbsp; But now I want to come back as the bond market.&nbsp; You can [&hellip;]<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":1,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"footnotes":""},"categories":[7],"tags":[],"class_list":["post-273103","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry","category-news"],"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/mereja.media\/index\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/273103","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/mereja.media\/index\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/mereja.media\/index\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/mereja.media\/index\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/1"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/mereja.media\/index\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=273103"}],"version-history":[{"count":0,"href":"https:\/\/mereja.media\/index\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/273103\/revisions"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/mereja.media\/index\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=273103"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/mereja.media\/index\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=273103"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/mereja.media\/index\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=273103"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}