{"id":287674,"date":"2010-02-06T11:04:00","date_gmt":"2010-02-06T16:04:00","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/www.businessinsider.com\/reminder-you-cant-like-brazil-if-you-dont-like-china-2010-2"},"modified":"2010-02-06T11:04:00","modified_gmt":"2010-02-06T16:04:00","slug":"reminder-you-cant-like-brazil-if-you-dont-like-china","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/mereja.media\/index\/287674","title":{"rendered":"Reminder: You Can&#8217;t Like Brazil If You Don&#8217;t Like China"},"content":{"rendered":"<p><img decoding=\"async\" class=\"float_right\" src=\"http:\/\/static.businessinsider.com\/image\/4b6d91cd000000000046ddbd\/hong-kong-brazil.jpg\" border=\"0\" alt=\"hong kong brazil\" \/><\/p>\n<p><em>(This guest post originally appeared at the <a href=\"http:\/\/thereformedbroker.com\/2010\/02\/06\/you-cant-like-brazil-if-you-dont-like-china\/\">author&#8217;s blog<\/a>)<\/em><\/p>\n<p>In last week&#8217;s <strong>Barron&#8217;s<\/strong>, I read the following quote from a fairly prominent hedge fund manager:<em><\/em><\/p>\n<p style=\"padding-left: 30px;\"><em>*Redacted*<\/em> &#8220;favors emerging stock markets, Brazil and Turkey in particular, over developed markets, but he is bearish on China, citing what he views as &#8216;extraordinary economic imbalances and the mismanagement of its economy&#8217;.&#8221;<\/p>\n<p>Let me help you out with that notion, homeboy&#8230; <strong>Liking Brazil while disliking China is like favoring the Indianapolis Colts in the <\/strong><strong>Super Bowl but betting that <\/strong><strong>Peyton Manning will have a bad game.<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>I&#8217;m hearing this &#8220;Brazil is great but watch out for China&#8221; thing a lot lately.&nbsp; It just doesn&#8217;t work that way.<\/p>\n<p>China and Brazil are quite possibly the most symbiotic investment story going right now.<\/p>\n<p>It&#8217;s completely understandable if you don&#8217;t like what&#8217;s happening in China, including the crane-filled skylines, the widening gap between those who can and cannot afford city real estate, the ghost cities and the infrastructure being built just for the sake of building.&nbsp; But if you are a disbeliever in the Chinese boom or its ability to continue, how could you possibly want to invest in an economy like Brazil that is completely beholden to China&#8217;s appetite for building materials, finished goods and food?<\/p>\n<p>Brazil&#8217;s burgeoning middle class and the rise of their own internal consumer culture are highly appealing to investors, especially when you look at the progress they&#8217;ve made in beating back inflation.&nbsp; But don&#8217;t for a minute think that the Brazilian consumer isn&#8217;t flourishing as a result of the world&#8217;s insatiable appetite for the country&#8217;s mineral and agricultural wealth.<\/p>\n<p>Companies like <strong>Vale (<span class=\"ticker\">VALE<\/span>)<\/strong> and <strong>Petrobras (<span class=\"ticker\">PBR<\/span>)<\/strong> have been coining money by selling to the <em>Chinese Dragon<\/em> and that same money is precisely what has trickled into the Brazilian population&#8217;s purse.<\/p>\n<p>China displaced the US as Brazil&#8217;s number one trading partner in 2008; the annual trade balance between the two nations has grown exponentially over the last decade and is now in the range of $36 billion.&nbsp; In May of 2009, they also signed a $10 billion oil agreement.<\/p>\n<p>Many of China&#8217;s steel plants have been running in overdrive since before the 2008 Summer Games.&nbsp; What made this possible was the metallurgical coal they imported in huge quantities from Brazil (400 million tons last year).&nbsp; This is in addition to the Brazilian metals and petroleum products shipped to China to facilitate the building of several metropolises and the highways to connect them.&nbsp; And then there is the agricultural export business, in some ways even more crucial for Brazil, which includes the shipping of soybeans and cellulose products.<\/p>\n<p>The revenues from this relationship have been extremely beneficial to the 90 million or so Brazilians who are now considered middle class (aka Class C).&nbsp; They buy cell phones, visit dentists and decorate their homes with the dividends from the export business.<\/p>\n<p>And as the US and Japanese economies have retreated over the last two years, Brazil has specifically targeted China as a market to sell into and has become increasingly reliant on it.<\/p>\n<p>What my friend the hedge fund manager doesn&#8217;t seem able to connect is the fact that should China&#8217;s internal issues cause a blow-up or a slowdown of any consequence, Brazil&#8217;s export industry will be perhaps the hardest hit, followed soon after by its consumer class.<\/p>\n<p>And frankly, in the absence of Chinese demand, who could possibly pick up the slack for Brazil&#8217;s export industry to keep chugging along?&nbsp; The US?&nbsp; LOL.&nbsp; Europe?&nbsp; Yeah, ok.<\/p>\n<p>The codependent relationship between China and Brazil is as fundamental as that of the shark and the remora fish.&nbsp; Any investor who believes otherwise is bound to be heartbroken.<\/p>\n<p>As <em>Old Blue Eyes<\/em> sang: &#8220;This I tell ya brother &#8211; ya can&#8217;t have one without the &#8230; other!&#8221;<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"http:\/\/thereformedbroker.com\/\"><strong>Read more market commentary at The Reformed Broker &gt;<\/strong><\/a><\/p>\n<p><a href=\"http:\/\/www.businessinsider.com\/reminder-you-cant-like-brazil-if-you-dont-like-china-2010-2#comments\">Join the conversation about this story &#187;<\/a><\/p>\n<p><b>See Also:<\/b><\/p>\n<ul>\n<li><a href=\"http:\/\/www.businessinsider.com\/ten-states-about-to-get-murdered-by-the-china-slowdown-2010-2\">The 10 States About To Get Murdered By The Coming Chinese Import Slowdown<\/a><\/li>\n<li><a href=\"http:\/\/www.businessinsider.com\/the-new-heavyweight-blackrock-is-bettign-huge-on-brazil-2010-2\">With New Muscle, Blackrock Is Betting Big On Brazil<\/a><\/li>\n<li><a href=\"http:\/\/www.businessinsider.com\/geithner-were-all-good-because-china-will-save-us-and-let-the-yuan-strengthen-2010-2\">Geithner: We&#8217;re All Good Because China Will Save Us And Let The Yuan Strengthen<\/a><\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<p><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" src=\"http:\/\/feeds.feedburner.com\/~r\/TheMoneyGame\/~4\/zHpJFMji_a0\" height=\"1\" width=\"1\"\/><\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>(This guest post originally appeared at the author&#8217;s blog) In last week&#8217;s Barron&#8217;s, I read the following quote from a fairly prominent hedge fund manager: *Redacted* &#8220;favors emerging stock markets, Brazil and Turkey in particular, over developed markets, but he is bearish on China, citing what he views as &#8216;extraordinary economic imbalances and the mismanagement [&hellip;]<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":89,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"closed","ping_status":"closed","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"footnotes":""},"categories":[7],"tags":[],"class_list":["post-287674","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry","category-news"],"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/mereja.media\/index\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/287674","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/mereja.media\/index\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/mereja.media\/index\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/mereja.media\/index\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/89"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/mereja.media\/index\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=287674"}],"version-history":[{"count":0,"href":"https:\/\/mereja.media\/index\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/287674\/revisions"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/mereja.media\/index\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=287674"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/mereja.media\/index\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=287674"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/mereja.media\/index\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=287674"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}