{"id":298615,"date":"2010-02-09T11:08:00","date_gmt":"2010-02-09T16:08:00","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/techdirt.com\/articles\/20100208\/0319478078.shtml"},"modified":"2010-02-09T11:08:00","modified_gmt":"2010-02-09T16:08:00","slug":"kevin-smith-may-try-crowdfunding-horror-film-red-state-after-fans-offer-to-do-so","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/mereja.media\/index\/298615","title":{"rendered":"Kevin Smith May Try Crowdfunding Horror Film, Red State, After Fans Offer To Do So"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>We&#8217;ve already pointed out how director\/writer\/filmmaker\/entertainer Kevin Smith is a <a href=\"http:\/\/www.techdirt.com\/articles\/20090621\/2050255304.shtml\">great example<\/a> of a filmmaker embracing the model of <a href=\"http:\/\/www.techdirt.com\/articles\/20091119\/1634117011.shtml\">connecting with fans and giving them a <i>reason<\/i> to buy<\/a>, even to the point of saying that unauthorized file sharing is <a href=\"http:\/\/www.techdirt.com\/articles\/20090908\/0132166123.shtml\">just a way to get more fans<\/a> he can &#8220;convert.&#8221;  Apparently, he may take things to another level, by following a crowdfunding effort similar to what we&#8217;ve seen with some <a href=\"http:\/\/www.techdirt.com\/articles\/20090319\/0211274175.shtml\">musicians<\/a> and <a href=\"http:\/\/www.techdirt.com\/articles\/20090828\/0159066032.shtml\">authors<\/a>.<\/p>\n<p>The twist here is that it wasn&#8217;t his idea.  The fans came to him and <a href=\"http:\/\/cinssu.ca\/blog\/?p=610\" >made it clear they wanted to fund the project<\/a>.  If you are a fan of Smith (as I am), you know he&#8217;s been talking about various projects he&#8217;s been thinking about, and last year talked a lot about a rather different kind of movie, a &#8220;political horror film&#8221; called <i>Red State<\/i>.  Of course, that&#8217;s definitely a big step away from Smith&#8217;s usual comic-fare, and finding financing for it was initially proving difficult.  But, the fans stepped up:<\/p>\n<blockquote><p><i><br \/>\n&#8220;I think an interesting thing that may happen with it is&#8211;I was on Twitter and people are asking about <\/i>Red State<i>, and then a dude tweeted &#8216;hey man, what if we pay for it?&#8217; And all of a sudden, a bunch of people were like &#8216;Seriously, why not?'&#8221;<br \/>\n<\/i><\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p>Smith has said that if he does this, he&#8217;d match every dollar donated.  They&#8217;re working on a website for it, but there have been some logistical issues:<\/p>\n<blockquote><p><i><br \/>\n&#8220;We&#8217;re kind of creating this website. We&#8217;re seeing if it works to set up and collect donations. It becomes a weird tax nightmare, though&#8230; It sounded like such an easy thing online&#8230; but now there&#8217;s lots of checks and balances to make sure we can do it, but if that&#8217;s the case, I would be into it, and I&#8217;ll match it. Whatever you raise on line, like fuck it, you put it up, I&#8217;ll put it up.&#8221;<br \/>\n<\/i><\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p>Of course, doing it from scratch may raise some issues, and I&#8217;d imagine he&#8217;d be better off if he weren&#8217;t trying to sell &#8220;shares&#8221; in the film, since that&#8217;s where things get really tricky, but focusing on selling something else (credit in the film, access to screenings, meet &#038; greet with Kevin, etc.), with the proceeds going to fund the film.  But there are lots of platforms like <a href=\"http:\/\/www.kickstarter.com\/\">Kickstarter<\/a> or <a href=\"http:\/\/www.biracy.com\/\">Biracy<\/a> that he might want to look into, since they&#8217;ve worked out a lot of the legal issues.<\/p>\n<p>Still, it highlights, yet again, what a lie it is to claim that &#8220;fans just want everything for free.&#8221;  And it shows that content not yet created is a <a href=\"http:\/\/www.techdirt.com\/articles\/20100125\/1631147893.shtml\">scarcity people will pay for<\/a>.  It&#8217;s still early (and Smith is focused on another movie first), but it could be one of the most high profile movies made using this technique.<\/p>\n<p>But the further this moves along, the more interesting it gets.  After a bunch of people misinterpreted the original interview Smith gave, he wrote out a <a href=\"http:\/\/silentbobspeaks.com\/?p=391\" >more detailed explanation of his thinking<\/a>, which is clearly still in the very initial planning stage (i.e., they don&#8217;t even know if it&#8217;s possible), but it looks to be about more than just fan funding this one film:<\/p>\n<blockquote><p><i><br \/>\nOur plan is to put anything we make into a fund that would, in turn, finance other (cost-sensible) flicks fans want to see. And from that? Build a People&#8217;s Studio. Simply have any interested\/frustrated\/desperate party put their script on our website, open for all to read, during a &#8220;pilot season&#8221; of sorts. Script that gets the most votes, gets the loot. That flick gets made and sold, all the loot goes back into fund for next round. If there&#8217;s enough loot from RED STATE sale to do so, idea would be to fund two low budget flicks a year. Ultimate dream: Indie Movement, v.3.<br \/>\n<\/i><\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p>Even though a lot of the talk around these parts has been about music industry business models, in the last year or so, I&#8217;ve really been amazed at the number of indie filmmakers who have been really digging in on new business models, with a strong willingness to experiment and adapt.  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