{"id":30178,"date":"2009-10-21T02:48:00","date_gmt":"2009-10-21T06:48:00","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/techdirt.com\/articles\/20091020\/1809366614.shtml"},"modified":"2009-10-21T02:48:00","modified_gmt":"2009-10-21T06:48:00","slug":"judge-keeps-gag-order-in-place-on-isp-boss-over-feds-demand-for-info-on-customer","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/mereja.media\/index\/30178","title":{"rendered":"Judge Keeps Gag Order In Place On ISP Boss Over Feds Demand For Info On Customer"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>The government has the ability to issue &#8220;national security letters&#8221; that let them demand information without a court warrant and at the same time gag those who are forced to reveal the info.  Given such power, it&#8217;s no surprise that the Justice Department <a href=\"http:\/\/www.techdirt.com\/articles\/20090415\/1952534522.shtml\">abused it widely<\/a> and conveniently <a href=\"http:\/\/www.techdirt.com\/articles\/20070327\/173818.shtml\">forgot<\/a> to report many of the uses when some oversight was attempted.  The whole setup of NSLs seems highly questionable.  What&#8217;s wrong with actually getting a warrant?  Adding a gag order to it is especially troubling &#8212; so it was great to see an anonymous ISP owner <a href=\"http:\/\/www.techdirt.com\/articles\/20071105\/192611.shtml\">pushback<\/a> on such a use of NSLs.  Last year, an appeals court <a href=\"http:\/\/www.techdirt.com\/articles\/20081216\/0141043133.shtml\">limited<\/a> when such NSLs could be used, tightening the standard.  However, the lower court has said that, even with these tighter restrictions, the <a href=\"http:\/\/www.wired.com\/threatlevel\/2009\/10\/patriot-act-gag\/\" >government&#8217;s use of NSLs against this ISP was proper<\/a>.  Of course, it&#8217;s difficult to determine if this actually makes sense, because the gov&#8217;t revealed secret info to the judge that even those on the other side of the case were unable to see.  The problem, obviously, is that there&#8217;s simply no way to know if this is legit or not &#8212; but any opportunity you give the government to say &#8220;just trust us&#8221; on being able to get otherwise private info with no oversight seems like an area ripe for abuse.<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"http:\/\/techdirt.com\/articles\/20091020\/1809366614.shtml\">Permalink<\/a> | <a href=\"http:\/\/techdirt.com\/articles\/20091020\/1809366614.shtml#comments\">Comments<\/a> | <a href=\"http:\/\/techdirt.com\/article.php?sid=20091020\/1809366614&#038;op=sharethis\">Email This Story<\/a><br \/>\n <br clear=\"both\" style=\"clear: both;\"\/><br \/>\n<br clear=\"both\" style=\"clear: both;\"\/><br \/>\n<a href=\"http:\/\/ads.pheedo.com\/click.phdo?s=60984deb124f182bf9cfc3c83bab061f&#038;p=1\"><img decoding=\"async\" alt=\"\" style=\"border: 0;\" border=\"0\" src=\"http:\/\/ads.pheedo.com\/img.phdo?s=60984deb124f182bf9cfc3c83bab061f&#038;p=1\"\/><\/a><br \/>\n<img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" alt=\"\" height=\"0\" width=\"0\" border=\"0\" style=\"display:none\" src=\"http:\/\/a.rfihub.com\/eus.gif?eui=2225\"\/><\/p>\n<div class=\"feedflare\">\n<a href=\"http:\/\/feeds.techdirt.com\/~ff\/techdirt\/feed?a=r5Zv4gEvy6M:XNqqxY2CI6E:D7DqB2pKExk\"><img decoding=\"async\" src=\"http:\/\/feeds.feedburner.com\/~ff\/techdirt\/feed?i=r5Zv4gEvy6M:XNqqxY2CI6E:D7DqB2pKExk\" border=\"0\"><\/img><\/a> <a href=\"http:\/\/feeds.techdirt.com\/~ff\/techdirt\/feed?a=r5Zv4gEvy6M:XNqqxY2CI6E:c-S6u7MTCTE\"><img decoding=\"async\" src=\"http:\/\/feeds.feedburner.com\/~ff\/techdirt\/feed?d=c-S6u7MTCTE\" border=\"0\"><\/img><\/a>\n<\/div>\n<p><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" src=\"http:\/\/feeds.feedburner.com\/~r\/techdirt\/feed\/~4\/r5Zv4gEvy6M\" height=\"1\" width=\"1\"\/><\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>The government has the ability to issue &#8220;national security letters&#8221; that let them demand information without a court warrant and at the same time gag those who are forced to reveal the info. Given such power, it&#8217;s no surprise that the Justice Department abused it widely and conveniently forgot to report many of the uses [&hellip;]<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":1,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"footnotes":""},"categories":[7],"tags":[],"class_list":["post-30178","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry","category-news"],"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/mereja.media\/index\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/30178","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/mereja.media\/index\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/mereja.media\/index\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/mereja.media\/index\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/1"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/mereja.media\/index\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=30178"}],"version-history":[{"count":0,"href":"https:\/\/mereja.media\/index\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/30178\/revisions"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/mereja.media\/index\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=30178"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/mereja.media\/index\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=30178"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/mereja.media\/index\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=30178"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}