{"id":34455,"date":"2009-10-28T12:05:59","date_gmt":"2009-10-28T16:05:59","guid":{"rendered":"tag:betanews.com,2007:article-1256744226"},"modified":"2009-10-28T12:05:59","modified_gmt":"2009-10-28T16:05:59","slug":"bad-vista-to-windows-7-upgrade-experiences-1-hosed-intel-ssds","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/mereja.media\/index\/34455","title":{"rendered":"Bad Vista-to-Windows 7 upgrade experiences #1: &#8216;Hosed&#8217; Intel SSDs"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>By <a href=\"http:\/\/www.betanews.com\/author\/smfulton3\">Scott M. Fulton, III<\/a>, <a href=\"http:\/\/www.betanews.com\">Betanews<\/a><\/p>\n<p>Although we had good reason to expect that most folks&#8217; experiences with Windows 7 upgrades this past week would be, as we put it, &#8220;<a href=\"http:\/\/www.betanews.com\/article\/Windows-7-Vista-without-the-crap\/1256137973\" title=\"Windows 7: Vista without the crap\">without the crap<\/a>,&#8221; the exceptions are starting to show up. One of the more serious cases involves Intel, which has <a href=\"http:\/\/downloadcenter.intel.com\/NotFound.aspx?NotAvail=Y&amp;lang=eng\" >withdrawn its latest solid-state drive firmware update<\/a> after multiple reports from disgruntled users of complete storage system failure following their Windows 7 upgrades.<\/p>\n<p>The new firmware, along with Windows 7, was supposed to support a new internal file management methodology called TRIM. Its purpose was to compensate for a problem typical of memory-based storage, as opposed to traditional magnetic disks: Since memory systems must keep track of their contents even some of those contents aren&#8217;t really in use, over time, SSDs&#8217; performance can lag. While traditional disks don&#8217;t have to retain a memory of the contents of sectors pointing to &#8220;deleted&#8221; files, SSDs do&#8230;and they can&#8217;t wipe the contents of those sectors individually. Instead, they have to wait until entire blocks become disused &#8212; which happens less and less often as drives become more and more fragmented. TRIM was supposed to overcome that deficiency with a kind of self-optimizing mechanism, letting SSDs wipe blocks more often, thus overcoming lags and keeping performance levels high over time.<\/p>\n<p>The trouble appears to be that something in the Windows 7 RTM distribution wasn&#8217;t ready for TRIM after all. Though Windows 7 appeared to work fine just after installation, soon afterwards, Intel SSD owners were finding they couldn&#8217;t sustain a reboot.<\/p>\n<p>&#8220;I removed the drive and put it in an external case and went to the desktop. Guess what, the partition was <i>raw<\/i>!&#8221; reported <a href=\"http:\/\/communities.intel.com\/message\/71623%3Bjsessionid=6E10BAA334B252A440F0B8249B6EAD07.node5COMS\" >one contributor to Intel&#8217;s support forum<\/a> early this morning. &#8220;Deleted the partitions and reinstalled Windows, and that seemed to do the trick. After an hour or two, a message came up and said that my drive was about to fail and S.M.A.R.T. reported it bad!&#8221;<\/p>\n<p>That contributor was joined by a flood of similar reports all over the major hardware forums. <a href=\"http:\/\/www.hardforum.com\/showpost.php?s=bea05775c7e478701d2fe098a00679af&amp;p=1034819242&amp;postcount=15\" >On HardForum Monday<\/a>, there was this: &#8220;I&#8217;ve scared myself off of SSDs for a few years and would probably never touch an Intel SSD again. I&#8217;ll gladly take a 5% real-world performance hit for a drive that doesn&#8217;t have a history of bricking itself when a firmware update is applied.&#8221;<\/p>\n<p>The firmware update was part of a comprehensive SSD Toolkit from Intel released just last Monday, which had promised to boost write speeds by as much as 40%. As company marketing director Pete Hazen said at the time, &#8220;We are encouraging our 34nm customers to download the new firmware update today. Not only will Windows 7 users receive the performance enhancements of the Trim command, but so will our Windows XP and Vista users.&#8221;<\/p>\n<p>Reviewers of the TRIM firmware appeared to confirm that figure and did not report problems. One of those positive reviewers was Anandtech, which was also <a href=\"http:\/\/www.anandtech.com\/storage\/showdoc.aspx?i=3667\" >first to update its TRIM review<\/a> with Intel&#8217;s comment that it was pulling the firmware update due to problems. Up to that point, commenters&#8217; complaints had focused on Intel&#8217;s lack of willingness to extend TRIM support to owners of older SSD models, which cost much more in the early going than they do now. 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Fulton, III, Betanews Although we had good reason to expect that most folks&#8217; experiences with Windows 7 upgrades this past week would be, as we put it, &#8220;without the crap,&#8221; the exceptions are starting to show up. One of the more serious cases involves Intel, which has withdrawn its latest solid-state drive [&hellip;]<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":1,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"footnotes":""},"categories":[7],"tags":[],"class_list":["post-34455","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry","category-news"],"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/mereja.media\/index\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/34455","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/mereja.media\/index\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/mereja.media\/index\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/mereja.media\/index\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/1"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/mereja.media\/index\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=34455"}],"version-history":[{"count":0,"href":"https:\/\/mereja.media\/index\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/34455\/revisions"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/mereja.media\/index\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=34455"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/mereja.media\/index\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=34455"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/mereja.media\/index\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=34455"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}