{"id":349680,"date":"2010-02-22T11:59:59","date_gmt":"2010-02-22T16:59:59","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/washingtonindependent.com\/?p=77302"},"modified":"2010-02-22T11:59:59","modified_gmt":"2010-02-22T16:59:59","slug":"marc-thiessen-truly-has-no-idea-what-he%e2%80%99s-talking-about-on-interrogation","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/mereja.media\/index\/349680","title":{"rendered":"Marc Thiessen Truly Has No Idea What He\u2019s Talking About on Interrogation"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>Watch the former Bush speechwriter and torture enthusiast on &#8220;Morning Joe&#8221; today. His first point is that President Obama is endangering the country because the Pakistanis aren&#8217;t getting intelligence from captured Taliban deputy commander Mullah Abdul Ghani Baradar. What he doesn&#8217;t mention is that intelligence from Baradar, reportedly, <a href=\"http:\/\/washingtonindependent.com\/77242\/another-top-taliban-leader-arrested-in-pakistan\">directly led to the capture<\/a> of Mulvi Kabir, one of the ten most wanted Taliban leaders. This was reported yesterday and Thiessen just ignores it.<\/p>\n<p>Then he avers that Obama&#8217;s rejection of torture has cost U.S. interrogators &#8220;any tools at our disposal&#8221; to &#8220;compel&#8221; information out of terrorist captures. Except that Umar Farouk Abdulmutallab, the would-be bomber of Northwest Flight 253, <a href=\"http:\/\/washingtonindependent.com\/75675\/ex-fbi-interrogator-mcconnell-and-co-dont-know-what-theyre-talking-about-on-abdulmutallab\">is cooperating with his interrogators after they used pressure from his family to compel that cooperation<\/a>. Also, the elite interrogators of <a href=\"http:\/\/washingtonindependent.com\/56177\/obama-announces-new-interagency-interrogation-force\">the High-Value Detainee Interrogation Group will surely be surprised to hear<\/a> they have no available tools for interrogating a resistant detainee. Then he says that torture stopped an attempted attack on the Los Angeles library tower, <a href=\"http:\/\/www.slate.com\/id\/2216601\/\">a misstatement that has been so thoroughly debunked<\/a> it raises questions about Thiessen&#8217;s honesty.<span id=\"more-77302\"><\/span><\/p>\n<p>Then Daniel Freedman &#8212; a <a href=\"http:\/\/www.observer.com\/node\/31591\">former Rudy Giuliani aide<\/a>, aide to ex-FBI counterterrorist agent Ali Soufan and torture opponent, more than ably points out that despite the torture of senior al-Qaeda captives like Abu Zubaydah and Khalid Sheikh Mohammed, several attacks in Europe and throughout the Middle East nevertheless occurred. To say nothing of al-Qaeda&#8217;s demonstrable reconstitution in the tribal areas of Pakistan. And Thiessen &#8212; a former speechwriter &#8212; wants to credibly contend that torture is the difference between security and insecurity. &#8220;The problem Marc has is that he takes things out of context and doesn&#8217;t read the full documents,&#8221; Freedman observes. Yet he&#8217;s your newest Washington Post columnist.<\/p>\n<p>Watch the whole thing &#8212; especially when Marc Thiessen implies that he knows more about interrogation than Gen. David Petraeus. And shame on Joe Scarborough for portraying Soufan, a man who has actually broken up al-Qaeda cells, as a &#8220;guy who writes a lot&#8221; and not one of the most experienced counterterrorists in American history:<\/p>\n<p><object id=\"msnbc8aae47\" classid=\"clsid:d27cdb6e-ae6d-11cf-96b8-444553540000\" width=\"420\" height=\"245\" codebase=\"http:\/\/download.macromedia.com\/pub\/shockwave\/cabs\/flash\/swflash.cab#version=6,0,40,0\"><param name=\"FlashVars\" value=\"launch=35519369&amp;width=420&amp;height=245\" \/><param name=\"allowScriptAccess\" value=\"always\" \/><param name=\"allowFullScreen\" value=\"true\" \/><param name=\"wmode\" value=\"opaque\" \/><param name=\"src\" value=\"http:\/\/www.msnbc.msn.com\/id\/32545640\" \/><param name=\"name\" value=\"msnbc8aae47\" \/><param name=\"flashvars\" value=\"launch=35519369&amp;width=420&amp;height=245\" \/><param name=\"allowfullscreen\" value=\"true\" \/><embed id=\"msnbc8aae47\" type=\"application\/x-shockwave-flash\" width=\"420\" height=\"245\" src=\"http:\/\/www.msnbc.msn.com\/id\/32545640\" name=\"msnbc8aae47\" wmode=\"opaque\" allowfullscreen=\"true\" allowscriptaccess=\"always\" flashvars=\"launch=35519369&amp;width=420&amp;height=245\"><\/embed><\/object><\/p>\n<p style=\"font-size: 11px; font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif; color: #999999; margin-top: 5px; background: none repeat scroll 0% 0% transparent; text-align: center; width: 420px;\">Visit msnbc.com for <a style=\"text-decoration: none ! important; border-bottom: 1px dotted #999999 ! important; font-weight: normal ! important; height: 13px; color: #5799db ! important;\" href=\"http:\/\/www.msnbc.msn.com\">breaking news<\/a>, <a style=\"text-decoration: none ! important; border-bottom: 1px dotted #999999 ! important; font-weight: normal ! important; height: 13px; color: #5799db ! important;\" href=\"http:\/\/www.msnbc.msn.com\/id\/3032507\">world news<\/a>, and <a style=\"text-decoration: none ! important; border-bottom: 1px dotted #999999 ! important; font-weight: normal ! important; height: 13px; color: #5799db ! important;\" href=\"http:\/\/www.msnbc.msn.com\/id\/3032072\">news about the economy<\/a><\/p>\n<p>I&#8217;m sorry, just one more thing. Thiessen objects to the use of the non-torture techniques outlined in the Army Field Manual on Interrogation against the highest-value detainees because the manual is &#8220;on the Internet&#8221; and terrorists can train against it. That&#8217;s just a flat-out misunderstanding of the field manual in particular and the interrogations process itself. The field manual does not and never has required <em>only<\/em> the use of those techniques it lists, but it proscribes physical and psychological abuse. That&#8217;s why people like Abdulmutallab can, say, have their parents&#8217; opprobrium be used against them, a technique not explicitly listed in the field manual but still legally and morally kosher &#8212; and proven to be effective.<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Watch the former Bush speechwriter and torture enthusiast on &#8220;Morning Joe&#8221; today. His first point is that President Obama is endangering the country because the Pakistanis aren&#8217;t getting intelligence from captured Taliban deputy commander Mullah Abdul Ghani Baradar. What he doesn&#8217;t mention is that intelligence from Baradar, reportedly, directly led to the capture of Mulvi [&hellip;]<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":4314,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"closed","ping_status":"closed","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"footnotes":""},"categories":[7],"tags":[],"class_list":["post-349680","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry","category-news"],"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/mereja.media\/index\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/349680","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/mereja.media\/index\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/mereja.media\/index\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/mereja.media\/index\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/4314"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/mereja.media\/index\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=349680"}],"version-history":[{"count":0,"href":"https:\/\/mereja.media\/index\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/349680\/revisions"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/mereja.media\/index\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=349680"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/mereja.media\/index\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=349680"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/mereja.media\/index\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=349680"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}