{"id":350108,"date":"2010-02-22T09:00:55","date_gmt":"2010-02-22T14:00:55","guid":{"rendered":"tag:business.theatlantic.com,2010:\/\/3.36328"},"modified":"2010-02-22T09:23:16","modified_gmt":"2010-02-22T14:23:16","slug":"is-the-bond-market-psychic-or-stupid","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/mereja.media\/index\/350108","title":{"rendered":"Is the Bond Market Psychic or Stupid?"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>President Obama&#8217;s proposed commission to solve the long term debt crisis has been met with disdain across the political spectrum. But some commenters &#8212; mostly liberal economists &#8212;&nbsp; think we don&#8217;t have a crisis in the first place. After all, they point out, look at the bond market. Short term interest rates are near zero and the 10-year yield is in the mid-3 percents, which is awfully low. The bond market doesn&#8217;t see a fiscal crisis, so why prepare for pain?<\/p>\n<p>Paul Krugman has been making this point for a while. Here he is in <a href=\"http:\/\/krugman.blogs.nytimes.com\/2009\/08\/23\/how-big-is-9-trillion\/\">August 2009<\/a>: <\/p>\n<blockquote><p>Right now GDP is around $14<br \/>\ntrillion. If economic growth averages 2.5% a year, which has been the<br \/>\nnorm, and inflation is 2% a year, which is the target <b>(and which the<br \/>\nbond market seems to believe)<\/b>\n<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p>And again in <a href=\"http:\/\/krugman.blogs.nytimes.com\/2009\/11\/19\/invisible-bond-vigilantes\/\">November 2009<\/a>:<\/p>\n<blockquote><p><b>Right now, however, the bond market seems notably unworried by<br \/>\ndeficits.<\/b> Long-term interest rates are low; inflation expectations are<br \/>\ncontained (too well contained, actually, since higher expected<br \/>\ninflation would be helpful). No problem, right?\n<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p>Krugman could be absolutely right. But it&#8217;s a little against character<br \/>\nto watch him put this much trust in a market &#8212; a fraught<br \/>\nmarket at that, since acute uncertainty surrounding global markets has<br \/>\ncreated a flight to safety in US dollars that will turn when the world<br \/>\neconomy recovers. But the deeper problem with deficit-defenders<br \/>\nthinking the bond markets are so smart is that the administration<br \/>\nrunning up the deficit seems to think the bond markets are a little bit<br \/>\n<a href=\"http:\/\/www.tnr.com\/article\/metro-policy\/balancing-the-budget\">dumb<\/a>.<br \/>\nSo dumb, in fact, that they can be fooled into a false sense of<br \/>\nsecurity by a non-security discretionary spending freeze that was<br \/>\nrighteously mocked by &#8230; everybody. <a href=\"http:\/\/www.tnr.com\/article\/metro-policy\/balancing-the-budget\">Here&#8217;s<\/a> Noam Scheiber on the administration&#8217;s thinking behind the freeze:<\/p>\n<blockquote>\n<p>&#8230;Given the<br \/>\ndifficulty of doing anything about the long-term deficit next year, <b>the<br \/>\nadministration needs some signal to U.S. bondholders that it takes the<br \/>\ndeficit seriously.<\/b> Just not so seriously that it undercuts the extra<br \/>\nstimulus.<\/p>\n<p>The Orszag approach [writing a budget that&#8217;s tough on discretionary spending] just might accomplish that. Given the amount of<br \/>\ndomestic discretionary spending in the federal budget&#8211;about $700<br \/>\nbillion this fiscal year&#8211;we&#8217;re talking about cuts of, at most, several<br \/>\ntens of billions of dollars if Orszag holds the line on spending (and<br \/>\nprobably less once Congress weighs in). Which means the cuts wouldn&#8217;t<br \/>\ncome close to offsetting the likely stimulus. <b>But they just might buy<br \/>\nsome credibility in the bond market, which could defer the day when the<br \/>\nreal deficit cutting has to start.<\/b>\n<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p>This is about more than what the bond markets are saying. It&#8217;s about how what they&#8217;re saying now should guide policy making.<br \/>\nEither the bond market is very wise and should act as a lighthouse for<br \/>\nour long-term fiscal plans, or it&#8217;s so hilariously gullible that it<br \/>\nwill swallow a measure that was mocked by every policy writer with a<br \/>\nkeyboard and an internet connection. If bond markets can tell the<br \/>\nfuture, they can&#8217;t be tricked with gimmicks. If they can be tricked with gimmicks, we shouldn&#8217;t<br \/>\ntrust them to tell the future. 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But some commenters &#8212; mostly liberal economists &#8212;&nbsp; think we don&#8217;t have a crisis in the first place. After all, they point out, look at the bond market. Short term interest rates are near zero [&hellip;]<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":1534,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"closed","ping_status":"closed","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"footnotes":""},"categories":[7],"tags":[],"class_list":["post-350108","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry","category-news"],"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/mereja.media\/index\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/350108","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/mereja.media\/index\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/mereja.media\/index\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/mereja.media\/index\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/1534"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/mereja.media\/index\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=350108"}],"version-history":[{"count":0,"href":"https:\/\/mereja.media\/index\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/350108\/revisions"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/mereja.media\/index\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=350108"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/mereja.media\/index\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=350108"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/mereja.media\/index\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=350108"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}