{"id":435999,"date":"2010-03-16T14:54:00","date_gmt":"2010-03-16T18:54:00","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/techdirt.com\/articles\/20100315\/0243548557.shtml"},"modified":"2010-03-16T14:54:00","modified_gmt":"2010-03-16T18:54:00","slug":"jaron-lanier-says-that-musicians-using-free-to-succeed-are-lying","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/mereja.media\/index\/435999","title":{"rendered":"Jaron Lanier Says That Musicians Using Free To Succeed Are Lying"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>Jaron Lanier came out with his book recently, and it&#8217;s still getting a bunch of publicity, despite <a href=\"http:\/\/www.techdirt.com\/articles\/20100113\/0001057724.shtml\">getting some rather basic facts wrong<\/a>.  But, even so, I was shocked to hear that he recently stood up at a conference and claimed that <a href=\"http:\/\/www.billboard.biz\/bbbiz\/content_display\/industry\/e3i8c42c2e07eaa0e32a9c85abe801dd780\" >musicians who say they are using &#8220;free&#8221; music to their advantage are <i>lying<\/i><\/a>:<\/p>\n<blockquote><p><i><br \/>\n&#8220;Every single example of these musicians who did really well by giving stuff away&#8230; they don&#8217;t exist,&#8221; Lanier says. &#8220;There are a lot of people who pretend &#8230; and it is fake.&#8221;<br \/>\n<\/i><\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p>What a bizarre statement, considering just how many real life examples we see every day of musicians successfully embracing an understanding of basic economics (which Lanier apparently lacks).  I was trying to better understand how Lanier could make such an easily debunked statement with a straight face, and it&#8217;s not clear at all.  It appears that Lanier is the one who is pretending here.  The <i>only<\/i> explanation I can find for his bizarre claim is the wiggle room he leaves for himself later in his talk:<\/p>\n<blockquote><p><i><br \/>\nLanier adds that artists making a career off music in the digital age are still having success thanks to the traditional models.  &#8220;Anyone who is making it now is making it off the little shreds of the old system that is still working,&#8221; he says.<br \/>\n<\/i><\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p>So, basically, he will try to turn any <a href=\"http:\/\/www.techdirt.com\/articles\/20091119\/1634117011.shtml\">of the many success stories<\/a> we regularly talk about into a story about how they&#8217;re still using &#8220;the old system.&#8221;  We&#8217;ve seen this before, and it makes no sense.  It&#8217;s the last gasp argument of someone who&#8217;s been proven wrong.  They&#8217;ll argue that because someone makes <i>any<\/i> use at all of the old infrastructure or the old system, every bit of their success is due to that.  It&#8217;s wrong on many different levels.<\/p>\n<p>Furthermore, when Lanier talks about &#8220;the little shreds of the old system that is still working,&#8221; I&#8217;m wondering what he&#8217;s referring to &#8212; given that countless studies are showing that the <a href=\"http:\/\/www.techdirt.com\/articles\/20090617\/1138185267.shtml\">music business has continued to grow<\/a>.  So, if there&#8217;s anyone &#8220;pretending&#8221; here, it seems like it&#8217;s Lanier.<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"http:\/\/techdirt.com\/articles\/20100315\/0243548557.shtml\">Permalink<\/a> | <a href=\"http:\/\/techdirt.com\/articles\/20100315\/0243548557.shtml#comments\">Comments<\/a> | <a href=\"http:\/\/techdirt.com\/article.php?sid=20100315\/0243548557&#038;op=sharethis\">Email This Story<\/a><br \/>\n <br clear=\"both\" style=\"clear: both;\"\/><br \/>\n<br clear=\"both\" style=\"clear: both;\"\/><br \/>\n<a href=\"http:\/\/ads.pheedo.com\/click.phdo?s=a61d7df8e55a6b40e340b94d65d8ef8d&#038;p=1\"><img decoding=\"async\" alt=\"\" style=\"border: 0;\" border=\"0\" src=\"http:\/\/ads.pheedo.com\/img.phdo?s=a61d7df8e55a6b40e340b94d65d8ef8d&#038;p=1\"\/><\/a><br \/>\n<!-- foo --><\/p>\n<div class=\"feedflare\">\n<a href=\"http:\/\/feeds.techdirt.com\/~ff\/techdirt\/feed?a=4IEl9XhJ2nw:EhSFkRGSW7g:D7DqB2pKExk\"><img decoding=\"async\" src=\"http:\/\/feeds.feedburner.com\/~ff\/techdirt\/feed?i=4IEl9XhJ2nw:EhSFkRGSW7g:D7DqB2pKExk\" border=\"0\"><\/img><\/a> <a href=\"http:\/\/feeds.techdirt.com\/~ff\/techdirt\/feed?a=4IEl9XhJ2nw:EhSFkRGSW7g:c-S6u7MTCTE\"><img decoding=\"async\" src=\"http:\/\/feeds.feedburner.com\/~ff\/techdirt\/feed?d=c-S6u7MTCTE\" border=\"0\"><\/img><\/a>\n<\/div>\n<p><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" src=\"http:\/\/feeds.feedburner.com\/~r\/techdirt\/feed\/~4\/4IEl9XhJ2nw\" height=\"1\" width=\"1\"\/><\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Jaron Lanier came out with his book recently, and it&#8217;s still getting a bunch of publicity, despite getting some rather basic facts wrong. But, even so, I was shocked to hear that he recently stood up at a conference and claimed that musicians who say they are using &#8220;free&#8221; music to their advantage are lying: [&hellip;]<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":1,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"closed","ping_status":"closed","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"footnotes":""},"categories":[7],"tags":[],"class_list":["post-435999","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry","category-news"],"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/mereja.media\/index\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/435999","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/mereja.media\/index\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/mereja.media\/index\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/mereja.media\/index\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/1"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/mereja.media\/index\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=435999"}],"version-history":[{"count":0,"href":"https:\/\/mereja.media\/index\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/435999\/revisions"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/mereja.media\/index\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=435999"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/mereja.media\/index\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=435999"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/mereja.media\/index\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=435999"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}