{"id":437983,"date":"2010-03-17T07:48:53","date_gmt":"2010-03-17T11:48:53","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/www.thehollywoodliberal.com\/2010\/03\/17\/quick-fact-gerson-claims-dems-looking-to-pass-a-law-without-a-vote\/"},"modified":"2010-03-17T07:48:53","modified_gmt":"2010-03-17T11:48:53","slug":"quick-fact-gerson-claims-dems-looking-to-pass-%e2%80%9ca-law-without-a-vote%e2%80%9d","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/mereja.media\/index\/437983","title":{"rendered":"Quick Fact: Gerson claims Dems looking to pass \u201ca law without a vote\u201d"},"content":{"rendered":"<p><a  rel=\"nofollow\" href=\"http:\/\/feeds.mediamatters.org\/~r\/mediamatters\/latest\/~3\/kcmg9fUTccM\/201003170009\" >Quick Fact:  Gerson claims Dems looking to pass &#8220;a law without a  vote&#8221; <\/a><\/p>\n<p><em>Washington  Post<\/em> columnist Michael Gerson asserted that the Democrats are working &#8220;to achieve the congressional equivalent of the Immaculate Conception &#8211; a law without a vote&#8221; and that the self-executing rule would allow health care reform &#8220;to slip by the House.&#8221; In fact, the self-executing rule requires a majority vote in order to pass and, as the <em>Post&#8217;s<\/em> Ezra Klein has noted, &#8220;the effect&#8221; of passing it &#8220;is not any different than if Congress were to pass&#8221; the Senate&#8217;s health care &#8220;bill first and pass the reconciliation fixes after.&#8221;<\/p>\n<p>From Michael Gerson&#8217;s March 17 <em>Washington Post<\/em> <a  rel=\"nofollow\" href=\"http:\/\/mediamatters.org\/rd?to=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.washingtonpost.com%2Fwp-dyn%2Fcontent%2Farticle%2F2010%2F03%2F16%2FAR2010031603581.html\">column<\/a>:  <\/p>\n<blockquote>\n<p>As of this writing, a president who  seems willing to interrupt prime-time programming on the slightest pretext has  not scheduled a speech from the Oval Office to make his final health-reform  appeal. House Speaker Nancy Pelosi is working her parliamentarians overtime to  achieve the congressional equivalent of the Immaculate Conception &#8212; <a  rel=\"nofollow\" href=\"http:\/\/mediamatters.org\/rd?to=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.washingtonpost.com%2Fwp-dyn%2Fcontent%2Farticle%2F2010%2F03%2F15%2FAR2010031503742.html\">a  law without a vote<\/a>. One gets the impression that Democrats would prefer  health reform to slip by the House in a procedural maneuver on a Friday night  during the <a  rel=\"nofollow\" href=\"http:\/\/mediamatters.org\/rd?to=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.washingtonpost.com%2Fwp-srv%2Fsports%2Fspecial%2Fncaatournament%2Findex.html\">NCAA  basketball tournament<\/a> &#8212; which it might. <\/p>\n<p>The most visible Democratic domestic  priority of the past 40 years must be smuggled into law, lest too many Americans  notice. Politicians claiming the idealism of saints have adopted the tactics of  burglars. Victory, if it comes, will seem less like a parade than a heist.  <\/p>\n<\/blockquote>\n<h2>FACT: Bill would not pass without  majority vote on self-executing rule<\/h2>\n<p><strong><strong>Ezra Klein: &#8220;[V]ote on the  reconciliation package <\/strong><\/strong><em><strong><em>functions as a  vote on the Senate bill.<\/em><\/strong><\/em><strong><strong>&#8221;  <\/strong><\/strong>In a March 15 <a  rel=\"nofollow\" href=\"http:\/\/mediamatters.org\/rd?to=http%3A%2F%2Fvoices.washingtonpost.com%2Fezra-klein%2F2010%2F03%2Fnancy_pelosis_strategy_for_pas.html\">blog<\/a> post, <em><em>The Washington Post<\/em><\/em>&#8217;s Ezra  Klein explained that the self-executing vote &#8220;functions as a vote on the Senate  bill&#8221; because &#8220;the House will pass the fixes under a rule that says the House  &#8216;deems&#8217; the Senate bill passed after the House passes the fixes.&#8221; Klein wrote:  <\/p>\n<blockquote>\n<p>Here&#8217;s how that will work: Rather  than passing the Senate bill and then passing the fixes, the House will pass the  fixes under a rule that says the House &#8220;deems&#8221; the Senate bill passed after the  House passes the fixes.<\/p>\n<p>The virtue of this, for Pelosi&#8217;s  members, is that they don&#8217;t actually vote on the Senate bill. They only vote on  the reconciliation package. But their vote on the reconciliation package  <em><em>functions as a vote on  the Senate bill.<\/em><\/em> The difference is semantic, but the  bottom line is this: When the House votes on the reconciliation fixes, the  Senate bill is passed, even if the Senate hasn&#8217;t voted on the reconciliation  fixes, and even though the House never specifically voted on the Senate bill.  <\/p>\n<p>It&#8217;s a circuitous strategy born of  necessity. Pelosi doesn&#8217;t have votes for the Senate bill without the  reconciliation package. But the Senate parliamentarian said that the Senate bill  must be signed into law before the reconciliation package can be signed into  law. That removed Pelosi&#8217;s favored option of passing the reconciliation fixes  before passing the Senate bill. So now the House will vote on reconciliation  explicitly and the Senate bill implicitly, which is politically easier, even  though the effect is not any different than if Congress were to pass the Senate  bill first and pass the reconciliation fixes after.  <\/p>\n<\/blockquote>\n<p><strong><strong>CRS: Self-executing rule requires  House&#8217;s approval. <\/strong><\/strong>A 2006 Congressional Research  Service (CRS) <a  rel=\"nofollow\" href=\"http:\/\/mediamatters.org\/rd?to=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.rules.house.gov%2FArchives%2F98-710.pdf\">report<\/a> makes clear that passage of a rule by the House is  required for the &#8220;self-executing&#8221; rule to be adopted. From CRS:  <\/p>\n<blockquote>\n<p><strong><strong>Definition of &#8220;Self-Executing&#8221; Rule.  <\/strong><\/strong>One of the newer types is called a  &#8220;self-executing&#8221; rule; it embodies a &#8220;two-for-one&#8221; procedure. This means that  when the House adopts a rule it also simultaneously agrees to dispose of a  separate matter, which is specified in the rule itself. For instance,  self-executing rules may stipulate that a discrete policy proposal is deemed to  have passed the House and been incorporated in the bill to be taken up. The  effect: neither in the House nor in the Committee of the Whole will lawmakers  have an opportunity to amend or to vote separately on the &#8220;self-executed&#8221;  provision. It was automatically agreed to when the House passed the rule. Rules  of this sort contain customary, or &#8220;boilerplate,&#8221; language, such as: &#8220;The  amendment printed in [section 2 of this resolution or in part 1 of the report of  the Committee on Rules accompanying this resolution] shall be considered as  adopted in the House and in the Committee of the Whole.&#8221;  <\/p>\n<\/blockquote>\n<p>Don  Wolfensberger, former <a  rel=\"nofollow\" href=\"http:\/\/mediamatters.org\/rd?to=http%3A%2F%2Fwilsoncenter.org%2Findex.cfm%3Ftopic_id%3D1412%26fuseaction%3Dtopics.profile%26person_id%3D5705\">chief of staff<\/a> for the House Rules Committee under  Republicans, stated in a 2006 <em><em>Roll Call <\/em><\/em><a  rel=\"nofollow\" href=\"http:\/\/mediamatters.org\/rd?to=http%3A%2F%2Fwilsoncenter.org%2Findex.cfm%3Ftopic_id%3D1412%26fuseaction%3Dtopics.publications%26doc_id%3D190504%26group_id%3D180829\">column<\/a>: &#8220;Almost every major bill must obtain a special rule,  or resolution, from the Rules Committee permitting immediate floor  consideration. The resolution also specifies the amount of general debate time  and what amendments will be allowed. A special rule also may contain other  bells, whistles, gizmos and gadgets. One of these optional attachments is a  self-executing provision, which decrees a specified amendment to have been  adopted <em><em>upon the rule&#8217;s  passage. <\/em><\/em>In other words, <em><em>once the House adopts the special  rule<\/em><\/em> it effectively has adopted the amendment before the  bill has even been called up for consideration [emphasis added].&#8221;  <\/p>\n<p><strong><strong>CongressDaily: House would still  have to vote on corrections to the Senate bill. <\/strong><\/strong>NationalJournal.com&#8217;s CongressDaily  <a  rel=\"nofollow\" href=\"http:\/\/mediamatters.org\/rd?to=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.nationaljournal.com%2Fcongressdaily%2Fhca_20100310_2179.php\">reported<\/a> (subscription required) that the rule would require  that the &#8220;House approves a corrections bill that would make changes to the  Senate version&#8221; for passage. From CongressDaily: <\/p>\n<blockquote>\n<p>House Rules Chairwoman Louise  Slaughter is prepping to help usher the healthcare overhaul through the House  and potentially avoid a direct vote on the Senate overhaul bill, the chairwoman  said Tuesday.<\/p>\n<p>Slaughter is weighing preparing a  rule that would consider the Senate bill passed once the House approves a  corrections bill that would make changes to the Senate version.<\/p>\n<\/blockquote>\n<div class=\"feedflare\"> <a  rel=\"nofollow\" href=\"http:\/\/feeds.mediamatters.org\/~ff\/mediamatters\/latest?a=kcmg9fUTccM:yHDcyqR7RZQ:yIl2AUoC8zA\"><img decoding=\"async\" src=\"http:\/\/feeds.feedburner.com\/~ff\/mediamatters\/latest?d=yIl2AUoC8zA\" border=\"0\"><\/img><\/a> <a  rel=\"nofollow\" href=\"http:\/\/feeds.mediamatters.org\/~ff\/mediamatters\/latest?a=kcmg9fUTccM:yHDcyqR7RZQ:V_sGLiPBpWU\"><img decoding=\"async\" src=\"http:\/\/feeds.feedburner.com\/~ff\/mediamatters\/latest?i=kcmg9fUTccM:yHDcyqR7RZQ:V_sGLiPBpWU\" border=\"0\"><\/img><\/a> <a  rel=\"nofollow\" href=\"http:\/\/feeds.mediamatters.org\/~ff\/mediamatters\/latest?a=kcmg9fUTccM:yHDcyqR7RZQ:qj6IDK7rITs\"><img decoding=\"async\" src=\"http:\/\/feeds.feedburner.com\/~ff\/mediamatters\/latest?d=qj6IDK7rITs\" border=\"0\"><\/img><\/a> <a  rel=\"nofollow\" href=\"http:\/\/feeds.mediamatters.org\/~ff\/mediamatters\/latest?a=kcmg9fUTccM:yHDcyqR7RZQ:l6gmwiTKsz0\"><img decoding=\"async\" src=\"http:\/\/feeds.feedburner.com\/~ff\/mediamatters\/latest?d=l6gmwiTKsz0\" border=\"0\"><\/img><\/a> <a  rel=\"nofollow\" href=\"http:\/\/feeds.mediamatters.org\/~ff\/mediamatters\/latest?a=kcmg9fUTccM:yHDcyqR7RZQ:gIN9vFwOqvQ\"><img decoding=\"async\" src=\"http:\/\/feeds.feedburner.com\/~ff\/mediamatters\/latest?i=kcmg9fUTccM:yHDcyqR7RZQ:gIN9vFwOqvQ\" border=\"0\"><\/img><\/a> <\/div>\n<p><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" src=\"http:\/\/feeds.feedburner.com\/~r\/mediamatters\/latest\/~4\/kcmg9fUTccM\" height=\"1\" width=\"1\"\/> <\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Quick Fact: Gerson claims Dems looking to pass &#8220;a law without a vote&#8221; Washington Post columnist Michael Gerson asserted that the Democrats are working &#8220;to achieve the congressional equivalent of the Immaculate Conception &#8211; a law without a vote&#8221; and that the self-executing rule would allow health care reform &#8220;to slip by the House.&#8221; In [&hellip;]<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":807,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"closed","ping_status":"closed","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"footnotes":""},"categories":[7],"tags":[],"class_list":["post-437983","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry","category-news"],"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/mereja.media\/index\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/437983","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/mereja.media\/index\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/mereja.media\/index\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/mereja.media\/index\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/807"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/mereja.media\/index\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=437983"}],"version-history":[{"count":0,"href":"https:\/\/mereja.media\/index\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/437983\/revisions"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/mereja.media\/index\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=437983"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/mereja.media\/index\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=437983"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/mereja.media\/index\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=437983"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}