{"id":443727,"date":"2010-03-18T10:42:00","date_gmt":"2010-03-18T14:42:00","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/www.businessinsider.com\/rosenberg-the-economy-is-stabilizing-not-recovering-and-that-wont-prevent-us-from-a-deflationary-meltdown-2010-3"},"modified":"2010-03-18T10:42:00","modified_gmt":"2010-03-18T14:42:00","slug":"rosenberg-the-economy-is-stabilizing-not-recovering-and-that-wont-prevent-us-from-a-deflationary-meltdown","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/mereja.media\/index\/443727","title":{"rendered":"Rosenberg: The Economy Is &#8220;Stabilizing&#8221; Not Recovering, And That Won&#8217;t Prevent Us From A Deflationary Meltdown"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>Does it matter if the economy is merely stabilizing and not actually recovering?<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"http:\/\/www.gluskinsheff.com\/\">David Rosenberg of Gluskin-Sheff<\/a> says yes, big time.<\/p>\n<p style=\"padding-left: 30px;\">It would seem that investors are taking comfort in the view that the U.S. labour <br \/>market and home prices are stabilizing.&nbsp; The problem with the former is that if it <br \/>only stabilizes and does not improve, then a persistent 10% unemployment rate <br \/>will, over time, lead to a deflationary environment, which is never good for <br \/>equities unless driven by the kind of tech-led productivity gains we saw in the <br \/>1990s.&nbsp; This deflation is caused by excess capacity and insufficient aggregate <br \/>demand &mdash; it&rsquo;s not the same.&nbsp; Jobless claims have to fall below 400k, not merely <br \/>stabilize around 460-470k, before employment growth can resume.&nbsp;&nbsp; <\/p>\n<p>A big impediment for the employment outlook is the fact that the State and local <br \/>government sector employs 20 million people or 15% of the workforce (versus <br \/>less than three million in the federal government) and is in major downsizing <br \/>mode.&nbsp; Today&rsquo;s Investor&rsquo;s Business Daily (page A2) mentions that more than <br \/>25% of Detroit&rsquo;s public schools are closing their doors in June to stem budgetary <br \/>red ink of $219mln.&nbsp; Also see page A8 of the WSJ for how the lower levels of <br \/>government are doing all they can to bolster their depleted revenue base (States <br \/>Pressure E-Tailers to Collect Sales Tax).&nbsp;&nbsp; <\/p>\n<p>As for home prices, we have a total of over 20 months&rsquo; supply of total housing <br \/>inventory overhanging the residential real estate market when all the shadow <br \/>inventory is accounted for; therefore, it is hard to believe that we have hit <br \/>bottom in the home price deflation cycle.&nbsp; And, the demand for homes, as we <br \/>can see in the continued negative year-over-year readings in mortgage <br \/>applications for new purchases and the receding new traffic index in the NAHB <br \/>survey, is dormant at best.&nbsp;&nbsp; <\/p>\n<p>Meanwhile, a wave of new supply is coming from strategic defaults, which now <br \/>account for 35% of all defaults according to research published by the University <br \/>of Chicago.&nbsp; To be sure, the Case-Shiller index has emerged as the nonfarm <br \/>equivalent to home price measures, and it has yet to roll over.&nbsp; But it has slowed, <br \/>and being a three-month average, it may take time to show deflation again.&nbsp; The <br \/>LoanPerformance home price index is down for four months running.&nbsp; Freddie <br \/>Mac&rsquo;s conventional home price index fell 0.7% in Q4.&nbsp; RadarLogic&rsquo;s 25-city <br \/>house price index is down for two months in a row and in four of the past five.&nbsp; <\/p>\n<p>It would seem that investors are taking comfort in the view that the U.S. labour <br \/>market and home prices are stabilizing.&nbsp; The problem with the former is that if it <br \/>only stabilizes and does not improve, then a persistent 10% unemployment rate <br \/>will, over time, lead to a deflationary environment, which is never good for <br \/>equities unless driven by the kind of tech-led productivity gains we saw in the <br \/>1990s.&nbsp; This deflation is caused by excess capacity and insufficient aggregate <br \/>demand &mdash; it&rsquo;s not the same.&nbsp; Jobless claims have to fall below 400k, not merely <br \/>stabilize around 460-470k, before employment growth can resume.&nbsp;&nbsp; <br \/>A big impediment for the employment outlook is the fact that the State and local <br \/>government sector employs 20 million people or 15% of the workforce (versus <br \/>less than three million in the federal government) and is in major downsizing <br \/>mode.&nbsp; Today&rsquo;s Investor&rsquo;s Business Daily (page A2) mentions that more than <br \/>25% of Detroit&rsquo;s public schools are closing their doors in June to stem budgetary <br \/>red ink of $219mln.&nbsp; Also see page A8 of the WSJ for how the lower levels of <br \/>government are doing all they can to bolster their depleted revenue base (States <br \/>Pressure E-Tailers to Collect Sales Tax).&nbsp;&nbsp; <\/p>\n<p>As for home prices, we have a total of over 20 months&rsquo; supply of total housing <br \/>inventory overhanging the residential real estate market when all the shadow <br \/>inventory is accounted for; therefore, it is hard to believe that we have hit <br \/>bottom in the home price deflation cycle.&nbsp; And, the demand for homes, as we <br \/>can see in the continued negative year-over-year readings in mortgage <br \/>applications for new purchases and the receding new traffic index in the NAHB <br \/>survey, is dormant at best.&nbsp;&nbsp; <\/p>\n<p>Meanwhile, a wave of new supply is coming from strategic defaults, which now <br \/>account for 35% of all defaults according to research published by the University <br \/>of Chicago.&nbsp; To be sure, the Case-Shiller index has emerged as the nonfarm <br \/>equivalent to home price measures, and it has yet to roll over.&nbsp; But it has slowed, <br \/>and being a three-month average, it may take time to show deflation again.&nbsp; The <br \/>LoanPerformance home price index is down for four months running.&nbsp; Freddie <br \/>Mac&rsquo;s conventional home price index fell 0.7% in Q4.&nbsp; RadarLogic&rsquo;s 25-city <br \/>house price index is down for two months in a row and in four of the past five.&nbsp; <br \/>&nbsp;<br \/>And, the FHFA index, which used to be the market-mover in years past, posted a <br \/>1.6% home price slide in December, which was the steepest decline since <br \/>November 2008 &mdash; at the peak of the mania of the mid-1990s, this index began <br \/>to show cracks about four months before the Case-Shiller did.&nbsp; Stay tuned.&nbsp;&nbsp; <br \/>It&rsquo;s not often that we find ourselves in agreement with Larry Kudlow, but his <br \/>comment on CNBC yesterday that he &ldquo;needed a microscope to detect any signs <br \/>of meaningful economic recovery&rdquo; certainly did resonate.&nbsp; From our lens, it&rsquo;s <br \/>more like a telescope, but why quibble?&nbsp;&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p><strong>Now: <a href=\"http:\/\/www.businessinsider.com\/admit-it-the-recession-is-over-and-youre-about-to-get-a-job-again-2010-3\">See our case that the economy really is recovering strongly &gt;<\/a><\/strong><\/p>\n<p><a href=\"http:\/\/www.businessinsider.com\/rosenberg-the-economy-is-stabilizing-not-recovering-and-that-wont-prevent-us-from-a-deflationary-meltdown-2010-3#comments\">Join the conversation about this story &#187;<\/a><\/p>\n<p><b>See Also:<\/b><\/p>\n<ul>\n<li><a href=\"http:\/\/www.businessinsider.com\/rosenberg-the-us-housing-market-is-definitely-weakening-2010-3\">Rosenberg: The US Housing Market Is &quot;Definitely&quot; Weakening, And You Can&#8217;t Just Blame The Weather<\/a><\/li>\n<li><a href=\"http:\/\/www.businessinsider.com\/davide-rosenberg-you-think-housing-is-recovering-check-out-these-charts-2010-3\">David Rosenberg: You Think Housing Is Recovering? Check Out These Charts<\/a><\/li>\n<li><a href=\"http:\/\/www.businessinsider.com\/david-rosenberg-on-retail-sales-2010-3\">Rosenberg: The Truth About Retail Sales Is That They Still Stink<\/a><\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<p><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" src=\"http:\/\/feeds.feedburner.com\/~r\/TheMoneyGame\/~4\/ZUMMWeSV24Y\" height=\"1\" width=\"1\"\/><\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Does it matter if the economy is merely stabilizing and not actually recovering? David Rosenberg of Gluskin-Sheff says yes, big time. It would seem that investors are taking comfort in the view that the U.S. labour market and home prices are stabilizing.&nbsp; The problem with the former is that if it only stabilizes and does [&hellip;]<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":1,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"closed","ping_status":"closed","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"footnotes":""},"categories":[7],"tags":[],"class_list":["post-443727","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry","category-news"],"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/mereja.media\/index\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/443727","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/mereja.media\/index\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/mereja.media\/index\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/mereja.media\/index\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/1"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/mereja.media\/index\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=443727"}],"version-history":[{"count":0,"href":"https:\/\/mereja.media\/index\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/443727\/revisions"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/mereja.media\/index\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=443727"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/mereja.media\/index\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=443727"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/mereja.media\/index\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=443727"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}