{"id":470899,"date":"2010-03-25T09:46:42","date_gmt":"2010-03-25T13:46:42","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/www.businessinsider.com\/heres-what-that-debt-saturation-chart-really-means-2010-3"},"modified":"2010-03-25T09:46:42","modified_gmt":"2010-03-25T13:46:42","slug":"heres-what-that-debt-saturation-chart-really-means","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/mereja.media\/index\/470899","title":{"rendered":"Here&#8217;s What That Debt Saturation Chart Really Means"},"content":{"rendered":"<p><em>(This guest post previously appeared at the <a href=\"http:\/\/paul.kedrosky.com\/archives\/2010\/03\/the_declining_m.html?utm_source=feedburner&amp;utm_medium=feed&amp;utm_campaign=Feed%3A+InfectiousGreed+(Paul+Kedrosky%27s+Infectious+Greed)&amp;utm_content=Google+Reader\">author&#8217;s blog<\/a>)<\/em><\/p>\n<p>A chart out there has gotten people excited lately, one that purports to show a phase transition in debt, with increasing dollars of debt causing ever-smaller increases in GDP. And now, pace the phase transition comment, debt is causing GDP to actually shrink.<\/p>\n<p>True? Interesting question. There should be no doubt that infinite amounts of consumer debt won&#8217;t generate any higher gains for a society than will debt for a company. As a matter of fact, declining returns at the margin are guaranteed, and should come as no surprise. After all, if we could just lever our way to a sustainable GDP of 2x current levels then we should just do it. Why screw around?<\/p>\n<p>The following chart which I put together from the St. Louis Fed shows the relationship on a quarterly y-o-y basis between <span style=\"text-decoration: underline;\">increases<\/span> in U.S. consumer debt and <span style=\"text-decoration: underline;\">increases<\/span> in GDP over the last few decades. In essence, it shows that a dollar of new consumer debt mostly produced somewhere between a $1.25 and $3.00 of GDP between 1960 and 1998. (Before that things were wilder, with a somewhat similar GDP\/debt relationship to today.) Post 1998, the relationship becomes squishier, with a dollar of debt delivering&nbsp; more like $0.75 of GDP in the 2000s, before the meltdown caused the ratio to spike briefly during the crisis, and then finally turning south altogether.<\/p>\n<p><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" src=\"http:\/\/static.businessinsider.com\/image\/4bab68497f8b9ace2b040500-575-345\/chart.png\" border=\"0\" alt=\"chart\" width=\"575\" height=\"345\" \/><\/p>\n<p>But here is the thing. The growth in debt during the last two decades &#8212; both amount and rate &#8212; was unprecedented. We should <em>expect<\/em> a significantly declining marginal contribution to GDP , with no mystery or phase transition required. Matter of fact, in recessions before 1970 we saw GDP\/debt declines to zero and below, just like we&#8217;re seeing today. Now, that doesn&#8217;t make the debt okay, because it isn&#8217;t and wasn&#8217;t, but it also doesn&#8217;t mean that, after delevering and time, debt can never again by deployed for profit in the economy.<\/p>\n<h3><strong><a href=\"http:\/\/paul.kedrosky.com\/\">Read more market and economic commentary at Infectious Greed &gt;<\/a><\/strong><\/h3>\n<p><a href=\"http:\/\/www.businessinsider.com\/heres-what-that-debt-saturation-chart-really-means-2010-3#comments\">Join the conversation about this story &#187;<\/a><\/p>\n<p><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" src=\"http:\/\/feeds.feedburner.com\/~r\/TheMoneyGame\/~4\/jjEwqT4n69k\" height=\"1\" width=\"1\"\/><\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>(This guest post previously appeared at the author&#8217;s blog) A chart out there has gotten people excited lately, one that purports to show a phase transition in debt, with increasing dollars of debt causing ever-smaller increases in GDP. And now, pace the phase transition comment, debt is causing GDP to actually shrink. True? Interesting question. 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