{"id":47228,"date":"2009-11-23T11:23:00","date_gmt":"2009-11-23T16:23:00","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/www.businessinsider.com\/david-rosenberg-slams-perma-bull-jim-paulsen-2009-11"},"modified":"2009-11-23T11:23:00","modified_gmt":"2009-11-23T16:23:00","slug":"david-rosenberg-slams-perma-bull-jim-paulsen","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/mereja.media\/index\/47228","title":{"rendered":"David Rosenberg Slams &#8220;Perma-Bull&#8221; Jim Paulsen"},"content":{"rendered":"<p><img decoding=\"async\" class=\"float_right\" src=\"http:\/\/static.businessinsider.com\/~~\/f?id=4b0ab66f00000000009e600b\" border=\"0\" alt=\"jimpaulsen2.jpg\" \/><\/p>\n<p>It sounds like the &#8220;perma-bear&#8221; label is starting to get to Gluskin-Sheff economist David Rosenberg.<\/p>\n<p>In his daily note, he takes a big swipe at market strategist Jim Paulsen of Wells Capital Management, and a frequent guest on CNBC.<\/p>\n<p style=\"padding-left: 30px;\">We sifted through Barron&rsquo;s over the weekend and found out in &lsquo;The Trader&rsquo; <br \/>column that Jim Paulsen of Wells Capital Management is &ldquo;a favorite market <br \/>strategist&rdquo;.&nbsp; Well, everyone is entitled to their opinion and we have debated Mr. <br \/>Paulsen in the past, and just as we may be looked upon as &lsquo;perma-bears&rsquo;, he <br \/>most certainly is a &lsquo;perma-bull&rsquo;.&nbsp; We can&rsquo;t lay claim to be able to pick every <br \/>peak and valley but we have been consistent with our view that we are halfway <br \/>through a secular bear market in equities, and while we were never quite <br \/>optimistic enough during the credit and asset bubble from 2003 to 2007, we <br \/>like to feel that we saved people who listened to us a lot of pain during what <br \/>economists now call the Great Recession.&nbsp;&nbsp; <\/p>\n<p>We saw it coming, and admittedly we were early on the call, but after re-read <br \/>Bob Farrell&rsquo;s market rules to remember and Charles P. Kindleberger&rsquo;s &ldquo;Manias, <br \/>Panics and Crashes&rdquo; and we&rsquo;re confident that the housing and credit bubble <br \/>would collapse under its own weight of dramatic excess.&nbsp; We all make calls <br \/>that in hindsight proved to be inaccurate.&nbsp; But the question is where you were <br \/>on the really big calls.&nbsp; The calls that really mattered &mdash; that actually saved <br \/>people their hard-fought wealth and capital.&nbsp; Well, on November 22, 2007, a <br \/>month away from the steepest economic downturn since the 1930s, and as a <br \/>matter of public record, Mr. Paulsen had this to say:&nbsp;&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p style=\"padding-left: 30px;\"><em>&ldquo;This thing hasn&rsquo;t been about people losing their jobs and their incomes.&nbsp; It&rsquo;s <br \/>been more about CEOs getting fired, banks writing off hedge fund losses and <br \/>a showdown between Wall Street and the Fed.&rdquo;&nbsp;<\/em>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p style=\"padding-left: 30px;\">Mr. Paulsen wasn&rsquo;t the only one to dismiss the credit bubble bursting and <br \/>what was to follow.&nbsp; But just because he stayed bullish and caught this year&rsquo;s <br \/>government-induced rally, pundits like him are now viewed as being a <br \/>&ldquo;favourite&rdquo; in one of the most influential business journals is rather incredible.&nbsp; <br \/>But it does attest to the &lsquo;what have you done for me now&rsquo; mentality that has <br \/>gripped an equity market that has stayed so short-term focused.&nbsp;&nbsp; <\/p>\n<p>A reader of our daily missives reminded us last week that as for the current <br \/>non-fundamentally based situation, we might want to reference the beginning <br \/>of Annie Hall when Woody Allen tells the joke about the family thinking about <br \/>institutionalizing their crazy uncle who believes he&rsquo;s a chicken.&nbsp; Here it goes: <br \/>This guy goes to a psychiatrist and says, &ldquo;Doc, uh, my brother&#8217;s crazy.&nbsp; He <br \/>thinks he&#8217;s chicken.&rdquo;&nbsp;&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p style=\"padding-left: 30px;\">And, uh, the doctor says, &ldquo;Well, why don&rsquo;t you turn him in?&rdquo;&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p style=\"padding-left: 30px;\">And the guy says, &ldquo;I would, but I need eggs.&rdquo;&nbsp; <\/p>\n<p><a href=\"http:\/\/www.businessinsider.com\/david-rosenberg-slams-perma-bull-jim-paulsen-2009-11#comments\">Join the conversation about this story &#187;<\/a><\/p>\n<p><b>See Also:<\/b><\/p>\n<ul>\n<li><a href=\"http:\/\/www.businessinsider.com\/rosenberg-class-warfare-coming-your-way-2009-11\">Rosenberg: Class Warfare Coming Your Way<\/a><\/li>\n<li><a href=\"http:\/\/www.businessinsider.com\/rosenberg-heres-why-unemployment-is-going-to-13-2009-11\">Rosenberg: Here&#8217;s Why Unemployment Is Going To 13%<\/a><\/li>\n<li><a href=\"http:\/\/www.businessinsider.com\/rosenberg-something-big-is-about-to-happen-2009-11\">Rosenberg: Something Big Is About To Happen<\/a><\/li>\n<\/ul>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>It sounds like the &#8220;perma-bear&#8221; label is starting to get to Gluskin-Sheff economist David Rosenberg. In his daily note, he takes a big swipe at market strategist Jim Paulsen of Wells Capital Management, and a frequent guest on CNBC. We sifted through Barron&rsquo;s over the weekend and found out in &lsquo;The Trader&rsquo; column that Jim [&hellip;]<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":1,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"footnotes":""},"categories":[7],"tags":[],"class_list":["post-47228","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry","category-news"],"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/mereja.media\/index\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/47228","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/mereja.media\/index\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/mereja.media\/index\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/mereja.media\/index\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/1"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/mereja.media\/index\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=47228"}],"version-history":[{"count":0,"href":"https:\/\/mereja.media\/index\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/47228\/revisions"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/mereja.media\/index\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=47228"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/mereja.media\/index\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=47228"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/mereja.media\/index\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=47228"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}