{"id":480559,"date":"2010-03-29T09:58:00","date_gmt":"2010-03-29T13:58:00","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/www.businessinsider.com\/henry-blodget-biggest-bull-market-sign-yet-day-trading-is-cool-again-2010-3"},"modified":"2010-03-29T09:58:00","modified_gmt":"2010-03-29T13:58:00","slug":"must-be-a-bull-market-the-dumbest-job-ever-day-trading-is-cool-again","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/mereja.media\/index\/480559","title":{"rendered":"Must Be A Bull Market: The Dumbest Job Ever, Day Trading, Is Cool Again"},"content":{"rendered":"<p><img decoding=\"async\" class=\"float_right\" src=\"http:\/\/static.businessinsider.com\/image\/4af326eb0000000000f40ff6\/atlantic-city-casino.jpg\" border=\"0\" alt=\"atlantic city casino\" \/><\/p>\n<p>Apparently, <a href=\"http:\/\/www.nytimes.com\/2010\/03\/28\/business\/28trader.html?pagewanted=2&amp;ref=business\">day trading is back<\/a>.&nbsp; The New York Times says so.&nbsp; So it must be.<\/p>\n<p>And that&#8217;s fine for those who understand that day trading is a nearly sure-fire way to do worse in the market than you would if you owned a low-cost tax-efficient index fund.<\/p>\n<p>Because the vast majority of day traders will do worse than index funds.&nbsp; Even though they&#8217;re spending all day trading.<\/p>\n<p>Of course, a big chunk of those day traders won&#8217;t know they&#8217;re doing worse than index funds.&nbsp; Because they&#8217;ll look only at their gross trading returns.&nbsp; In so doing, they will ignore:<\/p>\n<ul>\n<li>Brokerage commissions<\/li>\n<li>Taxes (~50% on short-term gains)<\/li>\n<li>Research costs<\/li>\n<li>The opportunity cost of the hours and hours they spend trading (which could be spent doing something else).<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<p>But stocks are going up again, which means lots of day traders are making money (because that&#8217;s what happens when stocks go up&#8211;traders make money).&nbsp; And so day trading is fun and cool again.<\/p>\n<p>Consider the fun one day trader was having the other morning, as <a href=\"http:\/\/www.nytimes.com\/2010\/03\/28\/business\/28trader.html?pagewanted=2&amp;ref=business\">described by the New York Times:<\/a><\/p>\n<p style=\"padding-left: 30px;\">[A]nyone hoping to join the day-trade caravan had better wear a seat belt, as Mr. Lindloff&rsquo;s experience on this Wednesday morning demonstrates. Before lunch, he will buy and sell about 44,000 shares, in 17 trades. He starts off poorly, losing about $500. But a timely bet on a company called Rackspace Hosting (&ldquo;I don&rsquo;t know what they do,&rdquo; he says), as well as quick investments in <a href=\"http:\/\/topics.nytimes.com\/top\/news\/business\/companies\/applied_materials_inc\/index.html?inline=nyt-org\" title=\"More information about Applied Materials Inc\">Applied Materials<\/a>, <a href=\"http:\/\/topics.nytimes.com\/top\/news\/business\/companies\/eagle-bulk-shipping-inc\/index.html?inline=nyt-org\" title=\"More information about Eagle Bulk Shipping Incorporated\">Eagle Bulk Shipping<\/a> and a few others, have turned things around.<\/p>\n<p style=\"padding-left: 30px;\">&ldquo;Up $210,&rdquo; he says, removing his headset. Factoring in commissions, he&rsquo;s made $60.<\/p>\n<p>Which means that, after factoring in taxes, he&#8217;s up $30.&nbsp; Which, pro-rated, is about $8 an hour.&nbsp; But it was fun.<\/p>\n<p>Academics like Brad Barber and Terrance Odean have studied the investment performance of day traders in detail.&nbsp; Not surprisingly, it&#8217;s ghastly.&nbsp; Here&#8217;s <a href=\"http:\/\/www.nytimes.com\/2010\/03\/28\/business\/28trader.html?pagewanted=2&amp;ref=business\">more from the NYT:<\/a><\/p>\n<p style=\"padding-left: 30px;\">The great mass of studies point to the same conclusion: <a href=\"http:\/\/faculty.haas.berkeley.edu\/odean\/papers\/returns\/returns.html\" title=\"&ldquo;Trading Is Hazardous to Your Wealth,&rdquo; Journal of Finance.\">trading is hazardous to your wealth&#8230;.<\/a> The losers far outnumber the winners&#8230;<\/p>\n<p style=\"padding-left: 30px;\">&nbsp;The authors sifted through tens of millions of trades, from 1992 to 2006, and found that <strong>80 percent of active traders lost money. <\/strong><\/p>\n<p style=\"padding-left: 30px;\">&ldquo;More importantly, we found that <strong>if you were to look at the past performance of these traders, only 1 percent of them could be called predictably profitable<\/strong>,&rdquo; says a co-author, Brad M. Barber, a finance professor at the <a href=\"http:\/\/topics.nytimes.com\/topics\/reference\/timestopics\/organizations\/u\/university_of_california\/index.html?inline=nyt-org\" title=\"More articles about the University of California.\">University of California, Davis<\/a>. Everyone else, it seems, was on a short-term winning streak. Even those who did modestly well found their that profits were wiped out, and then some, by transaction fees like commissions and taxes.<\/p>\n<p style=\"padding-left: 30px;\">&ldquo;<strong>It&rsquo;s not impossible to make money actively trading,&rdquo; Mr. Barber continues. &ldquo;There are slivers of people out there who are quite good. And everyone thinks they will be in that group of 1 percent.&rdquo; <\/strong><\/p>\n<p>Those are some powerful numbers, so let&#8217;s review them again:<\/p>\n<ul>\n<li>80% of day traders in the study <em>lost money<\/em> (something that is very hard to do in a bull market)<\/li>\n<li>Only 1% of day traders in the study were &#8220;predictably profitable.&#8221;<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<p>Put differently, far from this being an enriching line of work, 4 out of 5 people engaged in it <em>pay to do it<\/em>.&nbsp; Only 1 in 100, meanwhile, make enough to be worth writing home about.<\/p>\n<p>The folks who predictably make money from day trading, of course, are the folks who sell traders tools for their day trading: Information courses, &#8220;how-to&#8221; advice, data streams, stock charts, technical analysis, trading clubs, investment advice, stock picks, you name it.&nbsp; Those folks do quite well from day-trading.&nbsp; Unless they&#8217;re dumb enough to actually trade.<\/p>\n<p>But day trading is fun.&nbsp; Right?&nbsp; And it&#8217;s cool again.&nbsp; So, by all means, have at it.<\/p>\n<p><strong>See Also<\/strong>: <a href=\"http:\/\/www.businessinsider.com\/henry-blodget-heres-what-day-traders-dont-get-2010-3\">Here&#8217;s What Day Traders Don&#8217;t Get<\/a><\/p>\n<p><a href=\"http:\/\/www.businessinsider.com\/henry-blodget-biggest-bull-market-sign-yet-day-trading-is-cool-again-2010-3#comments\">Join the conversation about this story &#187;<\/a><\/p>\n<p><b>See Also:<\/b><\/p>\n<ul>\n<li><a href=\"http:\/\/www.businessinsider.com\/equity-fund-flows-aim-for-the-moon-2010-3\">Equity Fund Flows Aim For The Moon<\/a><\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<p><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" src=\"http:\/\/feeds.feedburner.com\/~r\/TheMoneyGame\/~4\/Raek02l6XoU\" height=\"1\" width=\"1\"\/><\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Apparently, day trading is back.&nbsp; The New York Times says so.&nbsp; So it must be. And that&#8217;s fine for those who understand that day trading is a nearly sure-fire way to do worse in the market than you would if you owned a low-cost tax-efficient index fund. 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