{"id":485839,"date":"2010-03-29T18:45:21","date_gmt":"2010-03-29T22:45:21","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/climateprogress.org\/?p=22076"},"modified":"2010-03-29T18:45:21","modified_gmt":"2010-03-29T22:45:21","slug":"let%e2%80%99s-call-setting-a-price-on-carbon-%e2%80%9cpuppies%e2%80%9d-and-call-clean-energy-standards-%e2%80%9ckittens%e2%80%9d-just-so-pro-pollution-ideologues-have-to-attack-cute-animals","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/mereja.media\/index\/485839","title":{"rendered":"Let\u2019s call setting a price on carbon \u201cpuppies\u201d and call clean energy standards \u201ckittens\u201d just so pro-pollution ideologues have to attack cute animals"},"content":{"rendered":"<p><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"imagecache imagecache-master-tall imagecache-default imagecache-master-tall_default alignright\" src=\"http:\/\/mjcdn.motherjones.com\/preset_16\/capandtraitor.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"300\" height=\"363\" \/><em>The Hill<\/em>&#8217;s blog has a <a href=\"http:\/\/thehill.com\/blogs\/e2-wire\/677-e2-wire\/89539-why-kill-cap-and-trade-because-its-there\">post<\/a>, &#8220;Why kill cap-and-trade? Because it\u2019s there.&#8221;<\/p>\n<p>The <em>NYT<\/em>&#8217;s John Broder had a <a href=\"http:\/\/www.nytimes.com\/2010\/03\/26\/science\/earth\/26climate.html?scp=1&amp;sq=John%20Broder%20Why%20did%20cap-and-trade%20die&amp;st=cse\">piece<\/a>, &#8221; \u2018Cap and Trade\u2019 Loses Its Standing as Energy Policy of Choice.&#8221;<\/p>\n<p>CBS reports of the forthcoming Graham, Kerry and Lieberman <a href=\"http:\/\/www.cbsnews.com\/8301-503544_162-20001346-503544.html\">bill<\/a>, &#8220;notably missing from it will likely be the cap-and-trade system that had  not long ago been expected to be the centerpiece of any legislation.&#8221;<\/p>\n<p>Peter Barnes <a href=\"http:\/\/climateprogress.org\/2010\/02\/27\/graham-kerry-lieberman-almost-ready-to-run-their-bipartisan-climate-and-clean-energy-bill-up-the-flagpole\/#comment-264549\">comments<\/a> on my blog, &#8220;If cap-and-trade is politically dead, why not try some version of  cap-and-dividend?&#8221;<\/p>\n<p>Two points.\u00a0 First, the bipartisan bill will have a cap.  And it appears almost certain it will have a trading  system.\u00a0 But such is the world we live in that this isn&#8217;t cap-and-trade.<\/p>\n<p>I&#8217;ve said many times it is crazy from a communications perspective to build your core message around a process &#8212; &#8220;cap-and-trade&#8221; [or <a href=\"http:\/\/climateprogress.org\/2010\/03\/22\/healthcare-reform-security-bipartisan-climate-and-energy-jobs-bills\/\">health care reform<\/a>] &#8212; rather than an outcome, like clean air or clean energy jobs.\u00a0 If it needs a name, let&#8217;s call it &#8220;puppy.&#8221;\u00a0 We can call cap-and-dividend &#8220;baby seal,&#8221; since it has a cap and a trading system, too.<\/p>\n<p>Second, conventional wisdom says we probably won&#8217;t get a climate bill this year, whatever it is called.\u00a0 But that&#8217;s not because of &#8220;cap-and-trade.&#8221;\u00a0 As Harvard economist\u00a0Robert Stavins explains in &#8220;<a href=\"http:\/\/belfercenter.ksg.harvard.edu\/analysis\/stavins\/?p=581\">Who Killed Cap-and-Trade?<\/a>&#8220;:<\/p>\n<p><span id=\"more-22076\"><\/span><\/p>\n<blockquote>\n<p><strong>A Rapid Descent From Politically Correct to Politically  Anathema<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>Among factors causing this change were:\u00a0 the economic recession; the  financial crisis (linked, in part, with real and perceived abuses in  financial <em>markets<\/em>) which thereby caused great suspicion about  markets in general and in particular about trading in intangible assets  such as emission allowances; and the complex nature of the <a href=\"http:\/\/www.govtrack.us\/congress\/bill.xpd?bill=h111-2454\" >Waxman-Markey legislation<\/a> (which is mainly <em>not<strong> <\/strong><\/em>about cap-and-trade, but <a href=\"http:\/\/belfercenter.ksg.harvard.edu\/analysis\/stavins\/?p=206\" ><em>various regulatory approaches<\/em><\/a>).<\/p>\n<p><strong>But the <em>most important factor<\/em> \u2014 by far \u2014 which led to the  change from politically correct to politically anathema was the simple  fact that cap-and-trade was the approach that was receiving the <em>most  serious consideration<\/em>, indeed the approach that had been passed by  one of the houses of Congress<\/strong>.\u00a0 This brought not only great scrutiny of  the approach, but \u2014 more important \u2014 it meant that <em>all of the  hostility<\/em> to action on climate change, mainly but not exclusively  from Republicans and coal-state Democrats, was targeted at the policy <em>du  jour<\/em> \u2014 cap-and-trade.<\/p>\n<p><strong>The <em>same<\/em> fate would have befallen <em>any front-running  climate policy<\/em>.<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>Does anyone really believe that if a carbon tax had been the major  policy being considered in the House and Senate that it would have  received a more favorable rating from climate-action skeptics on the  right?\u00a0 If there\u2019s any doubt about that, take note that Republicans in  the Congress were unified and successful in demonizing cap-and-trade as  \u201ccap-and-tax.\u201d<\/p>\n<p>Likewise, if a multi-faceted regulatory approach (that would have  been vastly more costly for what would be achieved) had been the policy  under consideration, would it have garnered greater political support?\u00a0  Of course not.\u00a0 If there is doubt about that, just observe the solid  Republican Congressional hostility (and some announced Democratic  opposition) to the <a href=\"http:\/\/belfercenter.ksg.harvard.edu\/analysis\/stavins\/?p=533\" >CO<sub>2<\/sub> regulatory pathway<\/a> that EPA has  announced under its endangerment finding in response to the <a href=\"http:\/\/www.oyez.org\/cases\/2000-2009\/2006\/2006_05_1120\/\" >U.S. Supreme Court decision in <em>Massachusetts vs. EPA<\/em><\/a>&#8230;.<\/p>\n<p><strong>In general, any climate policy approach \u2014 <em>if it was meaningful in  its objectives<\/em> and <em>had any chance of being enacted<\/em> \u2014  would have become the prime target of political skepticism and scorn.\u00a0  This has been the fate of cap-and-trade over the past nine months.<\/strong><\/p>\n<\/blockquote>\n<p>Precisely.<\/p>\n<p>The notion that cap-and-dividend &#8230; I mean, baby seal &#8230; is somehow intrinsically more palatable to the opposition than, say, puppies is nonsense.\u00a0 The point is they are both cute animals, and conservatives don&#8217;t like cute animals because they stand in the way of unrestricted pollution and our continued addiction to fossil fuels.\u00a0 Why do you think they want to off the polar bears?\u00a0 (see &#8220;<a title=\"Permanent Link to Palin\u2019s axis of evil animals:   Beluga whales join polar bears and wolf cubs\" rel=\"bookmark\" href=\"http:\/\/climateprogress.org\/2008\/10\/18\/palins-axis-of-evil-animals-beluga-whales-join-polar-bears-and-wolf-cubs\/\">Palin\u2019s axis of evil  animals:  Beluga whales join polar bears and wolf cubs<\/a>&#8220;).<\/p>\n<p>I mean, look at the Tea Partiers, the source of the sign above.\u00a0 Obama is being attack as an anarchist and\/or socialist for supporting a market-based approach to reducing pollution first advanced and signed into law by President George W. Bush&#8217;s father!<\/p>\n<p>What&#8217;s most pathetic &#8212; and, I think, missing from some of the analysis on the death of &#8220;cap-and-trade&#8221; &#8212; is that most everybody in the media and political establishment is quite  convinced the issue is a political loser when the recent polls say otherwise:<\/p>\n<ul>\n<li><a title=\"Permanent Link to Memo to policymakers: Public  STILL  favors the transition to clean energy\" rel=\"bookmark\" href=\"http:\/\/climateprogress.org\/2010\/03\/18\/memo-to-policymakers-public-still-favors-the-transition-to-clean-energy\/\">Memo  to policymakers:  Public STILL favors the transition to clean energy<\/a><\/li>\n<li><a title=\"Permanent Link to Swing state poll finds 60% \u201cwould be    more likely to vote for their senator if he or she supported the bill\u201d    and Independents support the bill 2-to-1\" rel=\"bookmark\" href=\"http:\/\/climateprogress.org\/2009\/09\/02\/swing-state-poll-clean-energy-climate-bill-aces-independents\/\">Swing    state poll finds 60% \u201cwould be more likely to vote for their senator   if  he or she supported the bill\u201d and Independents support the bill   2-to-1<\/a> (9\/09)<\/li>\n<li><a title=\"Permanent Link to New CNN poll finds \u201cnearly six in 10    independents\u201d support cap-and-trade\" rel=\"bookmark\" href=\"http:\/\/climateprogress.org\/2009\/10\/27\/pew-poll-public-supports-moving-forward-on-climate-and-clean-energy\/\">New    CNN poll finds \u201cnearly six in 10 independents\u201d support cap-and-trade<\/a> (10\/09)<\/li>\n<li><a title=\"Permanent Link to Voters in Ohio, Michigan and Missouri    overwhelmingly support action on clean energy and global warming\" rel=\"bookmark\" href=\"http:\/\/climateprogress.org\/2009\/11\/09\/voters-in-key-states-poll-support-clean-energy-global-warming-bill\/\">Voters    in Ohio, Michigan and Missouri overwhelmingly support action on clean    energy and global warming<\/a> (11\/09)<\/li>\n<li><a href=\"http:\/\/climateprogress.org\/2009\/12\/15\/overwhelming-us-public-support-for-global-warming-action\/\">Overwhelming    US Public Support for Global Warming Action<\/a> (12\/09)<\/li>\n<li><a title=\"Permanent Link to Public Opinion Stunner:  WashPost-ABC    Poll Finds Strong Support for Global Warming Reductions Despite    Relentless Big Oil and Anti-Science Attacks\" rel=\"bookmark\" href=\"http:\/\/climateprogress.org\/2009\/12\/18\/public-opinion-stunner-washpost-abc-poll-finds-strong-support-for-global-warming-reductions-despite-relentless-big-oil-and-anti-science-attacks\/\">Public    Opinion Stunner: WashPost-ABC Poll Finds Strong Support for Global    Warming Reductions Despite Relentless Big Oil and Anti-Science Attacks<\/a> (12\/09)<\/li>\n<li><a title=\"Permanent Link to It\u2019s all about Independents \u2014 and    Independence\" rel=\"bookmark\" href=\"http:\/\/climateprogress.org\/2010\/01\/20\/independents-clean-energy-independence-climate-bill-polls\/\">It\u2019s    all about Independents \u2014 and Independence<\/a> (1\/10)<\/li>\n<li><a href=\"http:\/\/climateprogress.org\/2010\/02\/10\/polls-public-support-for-clean-energy-and-global-temperatures\/\">Yale:\u00a0    When asked whether they \u201csupport or oppose regulation carbon   dioxide\u2026as  pollutant,\u201d 73 percent said yes, with only 27 percent   opposed,  including 61 percent of Republicans<\/a> (2\/10)<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<p>That&#8217;s true even if you ask them directly about the dreaded &#8220;cap-and-trade&#8221; (from January):<\/p>\n<blockquote>\n<p><a href=\"http:\/\/climateprogress.org\/wp-content\/uploads\/2010\/01\/poll-2010.gif\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"alignnone size-full wp-image-17687\" title=\"poll 2010\" src=\"http:\/\/climateprogress.org\/wp-content\/uploads\/2010\/01\/poll-2010.gif\" alt=\"poll 2010\" width=\"369\" height=\"127\" \/><\/a><\/p>\n<\/blockquote>\n<p>The public still supports strong action to regulate greenhouse gas pollutions and promote clean energy jobs.\u00a0 They love puppies and kittens:<\/p>\n<p><img decoding=\"async\" src=\"http:\/\/www.americanprogress.org\/issues\/2010\/03\/img\/ruy031510_01.bmp\" alt=\"From what you've read and heard, in general, do you favor or  oppose setting limits on carbon dioxide emissions and making companies  pay for their emissions, even if it may mean higher energy prices?\" \/><\/p>\n<p>I&#8217;m not saying the messaging failure is the sole reason the conventional wisdom has declared a climate bill all but dead.\u00a0 But when the high level messaging by leading politicians is so bad, it simply becomes impossible to disentangle the contribution of bad messaging from other factors, like the bad economy or, say, different policy choices.<\/p>\n<p>Related Posts:<\/p>\n<ul>\n<li><a title=\"Permanent Link to Lindsey Graham:  \u201cEvery day that we delay  trying to find a price for carbon is a day that China uses to dominate  the green economy.\u201d\" rel=\"bookmark\" href=\"http:\/\/climateprogress.org\/2010\/01\/31\/lindsey-graham-price-for-carbon-china-dominate-the-green-economy-clean-energy-jobs\/\">Lindsey  Graham: \u201cEvery day that we delay trying to find a price for carbon is a  day that China uses to dominate the green economy\u201d<\/a><\/li>\n<li><a title=\"Permanent Link to Lindsey Graham:  \u201cThe idea of not pricing  carbon, in my view, means you\u2019re not serious about energy independence.  The odd thing is you\u2019ll never have energy independence until you clean  up the air, and you\u2019ll never clean up the air until you price carbon.\u201d\" rel=\"bookmark\" href=\"http:\/\/climateprogress.org\/2010\/01\/28\/lindsey-graham-price-carbon-not-serious-about-energy-independence-clean-air\/\">Graham:  \u201cThe idea of not pricing carbon, in my view, means you\u2019re not serious  about energy independence. The odd thing is you\u2019ll never have energy  independence until you clean up the air, and you\u2019ll never clean up the  air until you price carbon.<\/a>\u201c<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<p>See also Kate Sheppard&#8217;s MJ <a href=\"http:\/\/motherjones.com\/blue-marble\/2010\/03\/cap-and-trade-dead-long-live-cap-and-trade\">post<\/a>,  &#8220;Cap and Trade is Dead. Long Live Cap and Trade!&#8221;<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>The Hill&#8217;s blog has a post, &#8220;Why kill cap-and-trade? 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