{"id":508419,"date":"2009-12-21T01:14:53","date_gmt":"2009-12-21T05:14:53","guid":{"rendered":"tag:www.chicagonow.com,2009:\/blogs\/message-from-montie\/\/87.33775"},"modified":"2010-01-09T22:39:29","modified_gmt":"2010-01-10T02:39:29","slug":"if-you-dont-vote-why-do-you-complain-about-politics","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/mereja.media\/index\/508419","title":{"rendered":"If you don&#8217;t vote, why do you complain about politics?"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>  <font color=\"#000000\" size=\"3\" face=\"Times New Roman\"><br \/>\n<span style=\"DISPLAY: inline\" class=\"mt-enclosure mt-enclosure-image\"><\/p>\n<div style=\"WIDTH: 313px\" class=\"pkg has-caption embedded-image left\"><a title=\"Thumbnail image for mccainobama.jpg\" href=\"http:\/\/www.chicagonow.com\/blogs\/message-from-montie\/assets_c\/2009\/12\/mccainobama-thumb-313x425-47235-thumb-313x425-47236.jpg\" rel=\"lightbox\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"mt-image-left\" alt=\"Thumbnail image for mccainobama.jpg\" src=\"http:\/\/www.chicagonow.com\/blogs\/message-from-montie\/assets_c\/2009\/12\/mccainobama-thumb-313x425-47235-thumb-313x425-47236.jpg\" width=\"313\" height=\"425\" \/><\/a> <\/p>\n<p class=\"caption\"><font style=\"FONT-SIZE: 0.8em\">Republican presidential candidate Sen. John McCain looks at Democratic presidential candidate Sen. Barack Obama as he answers a question during the Town Hall Presidential Debate at Belmont University&#8217;s Curb Event Center, in Nashville, Tenn. (AP photo by Gerald Herbert \/ October 7, 2008, photo from <a href=\"http:\/\/www.chicagotribune.com\/news\/chi-081007-obama-mccain-townhall-photogallery,0,2843798.photogallery\">ChicagoTribune.com<\/a>)<\/font><\/p>\n<\/div>\n<p><\/span><\/p>\n<p style=\"MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt\" class=\"MsoNormal\">Within the last year, I&#8217;ve had some very heated discussions about politics with people who don&#8217;t vote, and one of them happened today with a <a href=\"http:\/\/twitter.com\/svendarko\"><font color=\"#800080\">Twitter<\/font><\/a> user who solely tweets about politics. I asked him three times whether he voted in the last election after a tweet he made about health care reform and corrupt politicians, and he ignored my question. Finally after the third time asking, this <a href=\"http:\/\/twitter.com\/svendarko\"><font color=\"#800080\">Twitter<\/font><\/a> user&#8217;s response was the following:<\/p>\n<p><\/font><\/p>\n<p style=\"MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt\" class=\"MsoNormal\"><o:p><font color=\"#000000\" size=\"3\" face=\"Times New Roman\">&nbsp;<\/font><\/o:p><\/p>\n<p style=\"MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt\" class=\"MsoNormal\"><font color=\"#000000\" size=\"3\" face=\"Times New Roman\">&#8220;Whether you&#8217;re an independent, Dem, Repub, it doesn&#8217;t matter. You&#8217;re [sic] vote doesn&#8217;t matter. Voting is a trick.&#8221; <\/font><\/p>\n<p style=\"MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt\" class=\"MsoNormal\"><o:p><font color=\"#000000\" size=\"3\" face=\"Times New Roman\">&nbsp;<\/font><\/o:p><\/p>\n<p style=\"MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt\" class=\"MsoNormal\"><font color=\"#000000\" size=\"3\" face=\"Times New Roman\">Now the average person is going to assume that if someone is this pessimistic about the voting process, not just the electoral college, that they didn&#8217;t vote. Last week, I talked with a guy who&#8217;d sent a&nbsp;Facebook add to me about why it is he &#8220;doesn&#8217;t appreciate his ancestors.&#8221; He basically told me that anything that doesn&#8217;t effect him directly isn&#8217;t something he can appreciate and that was why he never cared about voting or history. So not only did he throw all politicians under the bus but slaves too. I didn&#8217;t think any conversation could top that one.<\/font><\/p>\n<p style=\"MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt\" class=\"MsoNormal\"><o:p><font color=\"#000000\" size=\"3\" face=\"Times New Roman\">&nbsp;<\/font><\/o:p><\/p>\n<p>  <font color=\"#000000\" size=\"3\" face=\"Times New Roman\"> <\/p>\n<p style=\"MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt\" class=\"MsoNormal\"><font color=\"#000000\" size=\"3\" face=\"Times New Roman\">Earlier this year, an author I met told me that <a href=\"http:\/\/www.chicagonow.com\/blogs\/message-from-montie\/2009\/12\/bill-maher-accuses-pres-obama-of-sounding-like-bush-for-presidential-address-on-war-in-afghanistan.html\">Pres. Obama<\/a> was just a puppet for the Republicans and they secretly wanted him to be elected for their own personal agenda. Well, this assumption could&#8217;ve fooled me because <a href=\"http:\/\/www.chicagonow.com\/blogs\/message-from-montie\/2009\/12\/bill-maher-accuses-pres-obama-of-sounding-like-bush-for-presidential-address-on-war-in-afghanistan.html\">Pres. Obama<\/a> is doing a fine job of pissing off Republicans. If he&#8217;s a puppet, he should win a Grammy on top of that <a href=\"http:\/\/www.chicagonow.com\/blogs\/message-from-montie\/2009\/10\/pres-obama-won-nobel-peace-prize-but-wheres-the-peace-1.html\">Nobel Peace Prize<\/a> for faking us out. But neither of these guys were well-versed on political issues, so I shrugged and left it alone. But this <a href=\"http:\/\/twitter.com\/svendarko\">Twitter user<\/a> actually does have intelligent points about <a href=\"http:\/\/www.associatedcontent.com\/article\/2191717\/rep_joe_wilson_shouted_you_lie_but.html\">health care reform<\/a>, so I was even more disappointed to find out his pessimistic views on voting. I was hoping to not make this third conversation yet another one with someone who doesn&#8217;t vote but has a world of opinions about what politicians need to do. <\/font><\/p>\n<p style=\"MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt\" class=\"MsoNormal\"><o:p><font color=\"#000000\" size=\"3\" face=\"Times New Roman\">&nbsp;<\/font><\/o:p><\/p>\n<p style=\"MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt\" class=\"MsoNormal\"><font color=\"#000000\" size=\"3\" face=\"Times New Roman\">So when I didn&#8217;t get a clear response on whether he votes, I pushed for a response from this <\/font><a href=\"http:\/\/twitter.com\/svendarko\"><font color=\"#000000\" size=\"3\" face=\"Times New Roman\">Twitter user<\/font><\/a><font color=\"#000000\"><font size=\"3\" face=\"Times New Roman\"> and got the followin<\/font><font size=\"3\" face=\"Times New Roman\">g:<\/font><\/font><\/p>\n<p style=\"MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt\" class=\"MsoNormal\"><o:p><font color=\"#000000\" size=\"3\" face=\"Times New Roman\"><\/font><\/o:p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p style=\"MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt\" class=\"MsoNormal\"><font size=\"3\"><font color=\"#000000\"><font face=\"Times New Roman\">&#8220;You, like most Americans, put way too much faith in voting. That&#8217;s what &#8216;they&#8217; want you to think. &#8216;Vote then be quiet.'&#8221; &#8211; and &#8211; &#8220;<span class=\"entry-content\">Voting for tweedle dee or tweedle dumb isn&#8217;t going to change anything. What we need is a real movement of the people.&#8221;<\/span><\/font><\/font><\/font><\/p>\n<p style=\"MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt\" class=\"MsoNormal\"><o:p><font color=\"#000000\" size=\"3\" face=\"Times New Roman\">&nbsp;<\/font><\/o:p><\/p>\n<p style=\"MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt\" class=\"MsoNormal\"><font color=\"#000000\" size=\"3\" face=\"Times New Roman\">Another person who doesn&#8217;t vote. Great. As Charles Barkley says, &#8220;I&nbsp;may be wrong, but I doubt it.&#8221; From that response, I was groaning and thinking, &#8220;Not again. Another loudmouth person who wants to complain about the political system but won&#8217;t even take the first step.&#8221; <\/font><\/p>\n<p style=\"MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt\" class=\"MsoNormal\">&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p style=\"MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt\" class=\"MsoNormal\">If you&#8217;re going to complain about a corrupt government, which he did in the Tweet, &#8220;Politics in America amounts to politicians pretending they care, pretending you matter and continuing their corruption: Repub or Dem,&#8221; at least be willing to vote for &#8220;Tweedle Dee&#8221; as opposed to &#8220;Tweedle Dumb.&#8221; However, when asked if he thought <a href=\"http:\/\/www.chicagonow.com\/blogs\/message-from-montie\/2009\/12\/bill-maher-accuses-pres-obama-of-sounding-like-bush-for-presidential-address-on-war-in-afghanistan.html\">President Barack Obama<\/a> was corrupt, this same <\/font><a href=\"http:\/\/twitter.com\/svendarko\"><font color=\"#800080\" size=\"3\" face=\"Times New Roman\">Twitter<\/font><\/a><font color=\"#000000\" size=\"3\" face=\"Times New Roman\"> user tweeted,&nbsp;&#8220;OK sure not every politician is corrupt.&#8221; And when speaking about a corrupt system stated, &#8220;One man isn&#8217;t going to change that.&#8221;<\/font><\/p>\n<p style=\"MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt\" class=\"MsoNormal\"><o:p><font color=\"#000000\" size=\"3\" face=\"Times New Roman\">&nbsp;<\/font><\/o:p><\/p>\n<p style=\"MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt\" class=\"MsoNormal\"><font color=\"#000000\" size=\"3\" face=\"Times New Roman\">Call me na\u00efve, but <a href=\"http:\/\/www.chicagonow.com\/blogs\/message-from-montie\/2009\/12\/bill-maher-accuses-pres-obama-of-sounding-like-bush-for-presidential-address-on-war-in-afghanistan.html\">Pres. Obama<\/a> is not just some random guy hanging out in the forest making s&#8217;mores. We&#8217;re talking about the president of the <st1:place w:st=\"on\"><st1:country-region w:st=\"on\">United States who has a track record of community service, understands the legal system and was a senator,<\/st1:country-region><\/st1:place>&nbsp;not someone fronting as a politician who is really a movie star (ex. Ronald Reagan, Arnold Schwarzenneger). <\/font><\/p>\n<p style=\"MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt\" class=\"MsoNormal\"><o:p><font color=\"#000000\" size=\"3\" face=\"Times New Roman\">&nbsp;<\/font><\/o:p><\/p>\n<p style=\"MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt\" class=\"MsoNormal\"><font color=\"#000000\" size=\"3\" face=\"Times New Roman\">Not voting in the presidential election but complaining about corruption in politics nonstop and all of the problems with Democrats and Republicans makes about as much sense as the guy who complains about the grass being too long but then turns down a free lawnmower. If you want to help fix the issues, the first thing you have to do is get involved by voting. <\/font><\/p>\n<p style=\"MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt\" class=\"MsoNormal\"><o:p><font color=\"#000000\" size=\"3\" face=\"Times New Roman\">&nbsp;<\/font><\/o:p><\/p>\n<p style=\"MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt\" class=\"MsoNormal\"><font color=\"#000000\" size=\"3\" face=\"Times New Roman\">If Senator McCain and author <a href=\"http:\/\/www.chicagonow.com\/blogs\/message-from-montie\/2009\/12\/tomatoes-meant-for-sarah-palin-land-in-police-officers-face.html\">Sarah Palin<\/a> were now in the White House, we would absolutely not be debating the same political issues, and <a href=\"http:\/\/www.associatedcontent.com\/article\/2191717\/rep_joe_wilson_shouted_you_lie_but.html\">health care reform<\/a> would not even be on the table. The topics we&#8217;re debating about in themselves show how voting matters. Sitting on <\/font><a href=\"http:\/\/twitter.com\/svendarko\"><font color=\"#800080\" size=\"3\" face=\"Times New Roman\">Twitter<\/font><\/a><font color=\"#000000\" size=\"3\" face=\"Times New Roman\"> airing out all the issues you have with <st1:country-region w:st=\"on\"><st1:place w:st=\"on\">America<\/st1:place><\/st1:country-region> without actually going to the voting booth does not help anybody besides <\/font><a href=\"http:\/\/twitter.com\/svendarko\"><font color=\"#800080\" size=\"3\" face=\"Times New Roman\">Twitter<\/font><\/a><font color=\"#000000\" size=\"3\" face=\"Times New Roman\">&#8216;s visiting statistics. <\/font><\/p>\n<p style=\"MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt\" class=\"MsoNormal\"><o:p><font color=\"#000000\" size=\"3\" face=\"Times New Roman\">&nbsp;<\/font><\/o:p><\/p>\n<p style=\"MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt\" class=\"MsoNormal\"><font color=\"#000000\" size=\"3\" face=\"Times New Roman\">When I challenged this <\/font><a href=\"http:\/\/twitter.com\/svendarko\"><font color=\"#800080\" size=\"3\" face=\"Times New Roman\">Twitter<\/font><\/a><font color=\"#000000\" size=\"3\" face=\"Times New Roman\"> user for not voting, I got the following response:<\/font><\/p>\n<p style=\"MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt\" class=\"MsoNormal\"><o:p><font color=\"#000000\" size=\"3\" face=\"Times New Roman\">&nbsp;<\/font><\/o:p><\/p>\n<p style=\"MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt\" class=\"MsoNormal\"><font color=\"#000000\" size=\"3\" face=\"Times New Roman\">&#8220;My voting record is not open for public discussion. But even people who don&#8217;t vote, are still citizens and capable for opinion.&#8221;<\/font><\/p>\n<p style=\"MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt\" class=\"MsoNormal\"><o:p><font color=\"#000000\" size=\"3\" face=\"Times New Roman\">&nbsp;<\/font><\/o:p><\/p>\n<p style=\"MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt\" class=\"MsoNormal\"><font color=\"#000000\" size=\"3\" face=\"Times New Roman\">Yes, people who don&#8217;t vote are capable of venting their (empty) opinions, but what is that solving? I can understand someone being angry when a politician is not doing things that they promised to do when running for office. I can understand someone being angry when a politician that they didn&#8217;t want to win is screwing <st1:country-region w:st=\"on\"><st1:place w:st=\"on\">America<\/st1:place><\/st1:country-region> up even worse, in their opinion. But I will never understand it when someone is so negative about the idea of voting and suddenly becomes secretive about his own voting record but wants to air out all of his issues with politicians. <\/font><\/p>\n<p style=\"MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt\" class=\"MsoNormal\"><o:p><font color=\"#000000\" size=\"3\" face=\"Times New Roman\">&nbsp;<\/font><\/o:p><\/p>\n<p style=\"MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt\" class=\"MsoNormal\"><font color=\"#000000\" size=\"3\" face=\"Times New Roman\">Use the lawnmower. Cut the grass. Otherwise sit down and be quiet.<\/font><\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Republican presidential candidate Sen. John McCain looks at Democratic presidential candidate Sen. Barack Obama as he answers a question during the Town Hall Presidential Debate at Belmont University&#8217;s Curb Event Center, in Nashville, Tenn. 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