{"id":518128,"date":"2010-04-06T15:18:17","date_gmt":"2010-04-06T19:18:17","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/www.ronpaul.com\/?p=5389"},"modified":"2010-04-06T15:18:17","modified_gmt":"2010-04-06T19:18:17","slug":"ron-paul-discusses-america%e2%80%99s-moral-decline-economic-collapse","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/mereja.media\/index\/518128","title":{"rendered":"Ron Paul Discusses America\u2019s Moral Decline & Economic Collapse"},"content":{"rendered":"<\/p>\n<\/param><\/param><\/embed><\/object><\/p>\n

Show:<\/strong> Alex Jones Show Host:<\/strong> Alex Jones Date:<\/strong> 4\/5\/2010<\/small><\/p>\n

Transcript<\/h3>\n

Alex Jones:<\/strong> Ladies and gentlemen, we are live. It is Monday, the 5th day of April, 2010. Until the bottom of the hour, we have Congressman Ron Paul<\/a> with us. And we appreciate him coming on. Congressman, good to have you here.<\/p>\n

Ron Paul:<\/strong> Good to be with you.<\/p>\n

Alex Jones:<\/strong> There is so much going on. I’ve got a lot of important questions I want to ask you. But out of the gates, what is most important on your plate that you want to warn the American people about today?<\/p>\n

Ron Paul:<\/strong> Oh, there are too many things. And I don’t know which one is the worst. You know, the finances are so bad, and they’re getting much worse because of the way they’re spending money, running up the debt. I think the financial crisis is getting so much worse. Interest rates are going up. I think that’s a major, major problem we face. But Ben Bernanke believes that he’s achieved great things by printing the money, […], taking care of his friends. And the people who lost their jobs don’t have a voice. So he thinks he’s had a great victory. But the second thing is what’s going on over in the Middle East; that’s getting much worse. The Iraqi situation is worse, now they won’t remove any troops at all. And of course, we’re going to be up to a 100,000 troops in Afghanistan, and Karzai is now feeling very bold and critical of the United States. When that happens, you know, I just wonder how we’ll handle that, because at times when our good friends start to act on their own, we usually get rid of them or desert them or let them go on their own. So I think that thing is a whole mess and it’s really going to blow up in our face.<\/p>\n

Alex Jones:<\/strong> Well, let’s get into the economy then first. I’ve seen the different job charts, showing that this is the worst recession since the late 1940s. And, meanwhile, I have a Business Week article from 2 weeks ago, where the federal regulators are pressuring public and private pension funds to be invested “in failed banks”. We have Geithner in the news with China talking about not buying as many dollars. We have open discussion by Moody’s and other top rating services of the U.S. losing their AAA rating. The economic situation appears to be spiraling downwards.<\/p>\n

Ron Paul:<\/strong> Well, I don’t think there’s any doubt about that. But there are a lot of people with their head in the sand. And I don’t know whether they’re lying to themselves when they say, “Oh, I really believe that things have turned around.” They look at the other side of the story and they see more jobs are being found, and unemployment is staying under 10%, GDP is going up. And they either try to fool the people, or they’re fooling themselves. But ultimately, though, the market will dictate and everybody will catch on. But I think where the disconnect is the government is putting a positive spin on it, but the people that you talk to and the people who take part in the Tea Party Movement know better. That’s why they’re […]; they’re not buying into this. This is a completely different year than we’ve had in, I guess, many, many years.<\/p>\n

<\/span>Alex Jones:<\/strong> Well, the AP reported last week that half of these so called ‘new jobs’ are government jobs and census jobs. And we know that the unemployment number is really above 20%. So even with cooked numbers, they’re claiming that we’ve gotten a small amount of job increases.<\/p>\n

Ron Paul:<\/strong> Yeah, and in this last report there were a lot of part-time jobs. They weren\u2019t real jobs. There were part time jobs, government jobs. I don’t think there’s much good news in that report at all.<\/p>\n

Alex Jones:<\/strong> Congressman Ron Paul<\/a>, let’s talk about the healthcare<\/a> bill; how it was passed, what it really does, the best ways you think the states can counter this. I think we shouldn’t just have lawsuits and trust the federal courts, state level nullification. Specifically on the healthcare<\/a> bill, you talked about Obama being emboldened, and now he wants this carbon tax. He’s going to try to pass that in the Senate, declaring CO2 a toxic waste. Let’s talk about healthcare<\/a> legislation, because we’ve seen Obama say, “Look, it’s been a few weeks since this passed, the birds are singing, the sun is shining”, but he knows that this thing doesn’t get phased in until next year and the three years after that. So that’s a very deceptive game he’s playing of perception.<\/p>\n

Ron Paul:<\/strong> You know what he’ll probably do is by that time, whoever is in charge or whoever will be there, will say, “Oh, maybe we didn’t do quite enough. Maybe what we really needed to have was that single-payer system”. So failure to them is just another opportunity. And if in the next year and next six months the people only hear good news and they don’t see what it’s going to really cost, you know, he may get away with it for a year without it coming down hard on him. But ultimately, though, it’s an illusion to think that they can do what they claim and not cost any money and improve healthcare. That’s a hard sell.<\/p>\n

Alex Jones:<\/strong> Well, you’re a medical doctor yourself, not just a congressman. And, of course, you’re also someone who’s researched how the economy really works. Specifically, for people that have questions about the healthcare legislation that is now law, a) what is in it that concerns you most, b) What do you think the most effective constitutional strategy is to defeat this?<\/p>\n

Ron Paul:<\/strong> Well, if the people were awake enough and there were enough of us, the process would be to just change the Congress, change the president, and repeal all that stuff. That’s the smoothest way to do it. The part that bothers me the most, of course, is the process that you talked about. I mean, how they pulled it off and, you know, we passed the rule, and the rule passed the Senate version, and then they go to reconciliation. That was horrible. But I think philosophically the worst part was that they moved away any opening for a private option. You know, they talk about public option, but what about the private option? Why don\u2019t individuals have the right to get out?<\/p>\n

Fortunately, some people opt out of the public school system and they have private schooling and homeschooling. Why don’t we have that in medicine? And that’s the HSA approach. But they minimize those; it’s much more difficult and if you opt out and say, “I don’t want it, I’ll take care of myself, I’ll handle everything. I don’t want to be a ward of the state”, you’ll have to pay a fine. You know, pay your $9000 and that, to me, was a big, big move in the wrong direction. And instead of thinking the day after we got this passed, “Oh, let’s repeal the whole thing.” Well, that would be great if you could, but maybe if we could narrow it down. And I want to introduce legislation to just narrow it down to legalize a private option to get out and take care of yourself. And that might be less confusing than going through 2,000 pages and explaining what is good, what is bad, what we’re going to keep, can you really get rid of everything; you know, that whole thing. So I would like to see debate where we just have a change over in Congress and we wouldn’t have to fight these things over and over. I mean, they pass this stuff and the people now are becoming more informed and they get upset. So there is lot of frustration out there turning into anger.<\/p>\n

Alex Jones:<\/strong> What do you see as the best strategy to defeat this, though, at the state level? I mean, can’t the states nullify this because it does force the states to pay for a large part of the federal mandate? So we have attorney generals now suing, but I don’t think that’s enough.<\/p>\n

Ron Paul:<\/strong> Well, I’m all for that if people want to do it. But they’re behind the 8-ball there. It’s not going to be accomplished. It’s sort of like they take our highway funds and then they come and say, “Well, you get your highway funds from the federal government, so we’re going to set your speed limit. Everybody has to drive at 55 miles per hour”. That’s what they did for so many years. And the states say, “Oh, we’re not going to do that? We’re going to fight that. We don’t want that sort of law.” The federal government says, “Alright, we’ll just keep their highways fund”.<\/p>\n

And that’s what they’ll do on Medicare. What are you going to do? Repeal every state participation in Medicaid? And then it’ll make the problem worse. There are unfunded mandates, and they’re going to have more unfunded mandates if they just try to ignore the law. I think the states want to do it, and I think it’s good that they’re talking about it and they passed these resolutions. That represents some good PR on how upset the people are. But I don’t think that is the solution. The ultimate solution for all this is people having a better understanding and a better trust in the way the market works and the way freedom works. You don’t need the government nanny state taking care of us from cradle to grave. If that isn\u2019t repealed – that attitude – tinkering around the edges of legislation won’t do the trick.<\/p>\n

Alex Jones:<\/strong> Congressman, you’ve talked about the fact that what’s really going to end this is the country collapsing financially. Can you speak to that? And then also as a medical doctor, my dad’s a physician, and everyone knows that federal money comes in for abortion<\/a>. And then these hospitals and clinics just use money that they would have used for something else for the abortion<\/a>, and use the other federal money to pay for the other programs. So it’s a shell game.<\/p>\n

Ron Paul:<\/strong> Yeah, and that whole thing and the process…<\/p>\n

(to be continued)<\/em><\/p>\n

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