{"id":520531,"date":"2010-04-08T12:43:49","date_gmt":"2010-04-08T16:43:49","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/climateprogress.org\/?p=22740"},"modified":"2010-04-08T12:43:49","modified_gmt":"2010-04-08T16:43:49","slug":"must-read-krugman-piece-building-a-green-economy-we-know-how-to-limit-greenhouse-gas-emissions-we-have-a-good-sense-of-the-costs-%e2%80%94-and-they%e2%80%99re-manageable-all-we-need-now-is-the","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/mereja.media\/index\/520531","title":{"rendered":"Must-read Krugman piece:  Building a Green Economy &#8211; &#8220;We know how to limit greenhouse-gas emissions. We have a good sense of the costs \u2014 and they\u2019re manageable. All we need now is the political will.&#8221;"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>Nobelist Paul Krugman has a <a href=\"http:\/\/www.nytimes.com\/2010\/04\/11\/magazine\/11Economy-t.html\">long piece<\/a> in the upcoming Sunday <em>NY Times<\/em> Magazine, basically climate economics 101.<\/p>\n<p>It is nearly 8000 words, so while you should read the whole thing, I&#8217;ll post some of the highlights below.\u00a0 I&#8217;ll also throw some links to the scientific and economic literature that the <em>NYT<\/em>, in its infinite wisdom\/stupidity, refuses to include.<\/p>\n<p><span id=\"more-22740\"><\/span>The essay isn&#8217;t primarily about the science, but this is what Krugman has to say on that, starting with the opening paragraph:<\/p>\n<blockquote>\n<p><strong>If you listen<\/strong> to climate scientists \u2014 and despite the  relentless campaign to discredit their work, you should \u2014 it is long  past time to do something about emissions of carbon dioxide and other  greenhouse gases. If we continue with business as usual, they say, we  are facing a rise in global temperatures that will be little short of  apocalyptic. And to avoid that apocalypse, we have to wean our economy  from the use of fossil fuels, coal above all&#8230;.<\/p>\n<p>This is an article on climate economics, not climate science. But  before we get to the economics, it\u2019s worth establishing three things  about the state of the scientific debate.The first is that the planet is indeed warming. Weather fluctuates, and  as a consequence it\u2019s easy enough to point to an unusually warm year in  the recent past, note that it\u2019s cooler now and claim, \u201cSee, the planet  is getting cooler, not warmer!\u201d But if you look at the evidence the  right way \u00ad\u2014 taking averages over periods long enough to smooth out the  fluctuations \u2014 the upward trend is unmistakable: each successive decade  since the 1970s has been warmer than the one before.<\/p>\n<p>Second, climate models predicted this well in advance, even getting the  magnitude of the temperature rise roughly right. While it\u2019s relatively  easy to cook up an analysis that matches known data, it is much harder  to create a model that accurately forecasts the future. So the fact that  climate modelers more than 20 years ago successfully predicted the  subsequent global warming gives them enormous credibility.<\/p>\n<p>Yet that\u2019s not the conclusion you might draw from the many media reports  that have focused on matters like hacked e-mail and climate scientists\u2019  talking about a \u201ctrick\u201d to \u201chide\u201d an anomalous decline in one data  series or expressing their wish to see papers by climate skeptics kept  out of research reviews. The truth, however, is that the supposed  scandals evaporate on closer examination, revealing only that climate  researchers are human beings, too. Yes, scientists try to make their  results stand out, but no data were suppressed. Yes, scientists dislike  it when work that they think deliberately obfuscates the issues gets  published. What else is new? Nothing suggests that there should not  continue to be strong support for climate research.<\/p>\n<p><strong>And this brings me to my third point: models based on this research  indicate that if we continue adding greenhouse gases to the atmosphere  as we have, we will eventually face drastic changes in the climate.  Let\u2019s be clear. We\u2019re not talking about a few more hot days in the  summer and a bit less snow in the winter; we\u2019re talking about massively  disruptive events, like the transformation of the Southwestern United  States into a permanent dust bowl over the next few decades.<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>Now, despite the high credibility of climate modelers, there is still  tremendous uncertainty in their long-term forecasts. But as we will see  shortly, uncertainty makes the case for action stronger, not weaker. So  climate change demands action&#8230;.<\/p>\n<p>At this point, the projections of climate change, assuming we  continue  business as usual, cluster around an estimate that average  temperatures  will be about 9 degrees Fahrenheit higher in 2100 than  they were in  2000. That\u2019s a lot \u2014 equivalent to the difference in  average  temperatures between New York and central Mississippi. Such a  huge  change would have to be highly disruptive. And the troubles would  not  stop there: temperatures would continue to rise.<\/p>\n<p>Furthermore,  changes in average temperature will by no means be the  whole story.  Precipitation patterns will change, with some regions  getting much  wetter and others much drier. Many modelers also predict  more intense  storms. Sea levels would rise, with the impact intensified  by those  storms: coastal flooding, already a major source of natural  disasters,  would become much more frequent and severe. And there might  be drastic  changes in the climate of some regions as ocean currents  shift. It\u2019s  always worth bearing in mind that London is at the same  latitude as  Labrador; without the Gulf Stream, Western Europe would be  barely  habitable.<\/p>\n<p>But there are at least two reasons to take sanguine assessments of the  consequences of climate change with a grain of salt. One is that, as I  have just pointed out, it\u2019s not just a matter of having warmer weather \u2014  many of the costs of climate change are likely to result from droughts,  flooding and severe storms. The other is that while modern economies  may be highly adaptable, the same may not be true of ecosystems. The  last time the earth experienced warming at anything like the pace we now  expect was during the Paleocene-Eocene Thermal Maximum, about 55  million years ago, when temperatures rose by about 11 degrees Fahrenheit  over the course of around 20,000 years (which is a much slower rate  than the current pace of warming). That increase was associated with  mass extinctions, which, to put it mildly, probably would not be good  for living standards&#8230;.<\/p>\n<\/blockquote>\n<p>For what the science says we risk if we stay anywhere near our current path of unrestricted emissions, see:<\/p>\n<ul>\n<li><a title=\"Permanent Link to Nature Geoscience study:   Oceans are  acidifying 10 times faster today than 55 million years ago  when a mass  extinction of marine species occurred\" rel=\"bookmark\" href=\"http:\/\/climateprogress.org\/2010\/02\/18\/ocean-acidification-study-mass-extinction-of-marine-life-nature-geoscience\/\"><em>Nature  Geoscience<\/em> study:  Oceans are acidifying 10 times faster today than 55  million  years ago when a mass extinction of marine species occurred<\/a><\/li>\n<li><a title=\"Permanent Link to  M.I.T. doubles  its 2095 warming projection to 10\u00b0F \u2014 with 866 ppm and  Arctic warming of  20\u00b0F\" rel=\"bookmark\" href=\"http:\/\/climateprogress.org\/2009\/05\/20\/mit-doubles-global-warming-projections-2\/\">M.I.T.   doubles its 2095 warming projection to 10\u00b0F \u2014 with 866 ppm and Arctic   warming of 20\u00b0F<\/a><\/li>\n<li><a title=\"Permanent Link to Our hellish future:    Definitive NOAA-led report on U.S. climate impacts warns of scorching  9  to 11\u00b0F warming over most of inland U.S. by 2090 with Kansas above  90\u00b0F  some 120 days a year \u2014 and that isn\u2019t the worst case, it\u2019s  business as  usual!\" rel=\"bookmark\" href=\"http:\/\/climateprogress.org\/2009\/06\/15\/us-global-change-research-program-noaa-global-climate-change-impacts-in-united-states\/\">Our   hellish future: Definitive NOAA-led report on U.S. climate impacts   warns of scorching 9 to 11\u00b0F warming over most of inland U.S. by 2090   with Kansas above 90\u00b0F some 120 days a year \u2014 and that isn\u2019t the worst   case, it\u2019s business as usual!<\/a>\u201d<\/li>\n<li><a title=\"Permanent Link to Science:  CO2 levels haven\u2019t been this high  for 15 million years, when it was 5\u00b0 to 10\u00b0F warmer and seas were 75 to  120 feet higher \u2014 \u201cWe have shown that this dramatic rise in sea level is  associated with an increase in CO2 levels of about 100 ppm.\u201d\" rel=\"bookmark\" href=\"http:\/\/climateprogress.org\/2009\/10\/18\/science-co2-levels-havent-been-this-high-for-15-million-years-when-it-was-5%c2%b0-to-10%c2%b0f-warmer-and-seas-were-75-to-120-feet-higher-we-have-shown-that-this-dramatic-rise-in-sea-level-i\/\"><em>Science<\/em>:  CO2 levels haven\u2019t been this high for 15 million years, when it was 5\u00b0  to 10\u00b0F warmer and seas were 75 to 120 feet higher \u2014 \u201cWe have shown that  this dramatic rise in sea level is associated with an increase in CO2  levels of about 100 ppm.\u201d<\/a><\/li>\n<li><a id=\"destacado_5124\" title=\"An introduction to global warming  impacts:   Hell and High Water \" href=\"http:\/\/climateprogress.org\/2009\/03\/22\/an-introduction-to-global-warming-impacts-hell-and-high-water\/\">An   introduction to global warming impacts:  Hell  and High Water <\/a><\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<p>He has a discussion of the low cost of action:<\/p>\n<blockquote>\n<p>Just as there is a rough consensus among climate modelers about the  likely trajectory of temperatures if we do not act to cut the emissions  of greenhouse gases, there is a rough consensus among economic modelers  about the costs of action. That general opinion may be summed up as  follows: Restricting emissions would slow economic growth \u2014 but not by  much.<strong> The Congressional Budget Office, relying on a survey of  models, has concluded that Waxman-Markey \u201cwould reduce the projected  average annual rate of growth of gross domestic product between 2010 and 2050  by 0.03 to 0.09 percentage points.\u201d<\/strong> That is, it would trim average  annual growth to 2.31 percent, at worst, from 2.4 percent. Over all, the  Budget Office concludes, strong climate-change policy would leave the  American economy between 1.1 percent and 3.4 percent smaller in 2050  than it would be otherwise.And what about the world economy? In general, modelers tend to find that  climate-change policies would lower global output by a somewhat smaller  percentage than the comparable figures for the United States. The main  reason is that emerging economies like China currently use energy fairly  inefficiently, partly as a result of national policies that have kept  the prices of fossil fuels very low, and could thus achieve large energy  savings at a modest cost. One recent review of the available estimates  put the costs of a very strong climate policy \u2014 substantially more  aggressive than contemplated in current legislative proposals \u2014 at  between 1 and 3 percent of gross world product.<\/p>\n<p>Such figures typically come from a model that combines all sorts of  engineering and marketplace estimates. These will include, for instance,  engineers\u2019 best calculations of how much it costs to generate  electricity in various ways, from coal, gas and nuclear and solar  power at given resource prices. Then estimates will be made, based  on historical experience, of how much consumers would cut back their  electricity consumption if its price rises. The same process is followed  for other kinds of energy, like motor fuel. And the model assumes that  everyone makes the best choice given the economic environment \u2014 that  power generators choose the least expensive means of producing  electricity, while consumers conserve energy as long as the money saved  by buying less electricity exceeds the cost of using less power in the  form either of other spending or loss of convenience. After all this  analysis, it\u2019s possible to predict how producers and consumers of energy  will react to policies that put a price on emissions and how much those  reactions will end up costing the economy as a whole.<\/p>\n<p>There are, of course, a number of ways this kind of modeling could be  wrong. Many of the underlying estimates are necessarily somewhat  speculative; nobody really knows, for instance, what solar power will  cost once it finally becomes a large-scale proposition. There is also  reason to doubt the assumption that people actually make the right  choices: many studies have found that consumers fail to take measures to  conserve energy, like improving insulation, even when they could save  money by doing so.<\/p>\n<p>But while it\u2019s unlikely that these models get everything right, <strong>it\u2019s a  good bet that they overstate rather than understate the economic costs  of climate-change action. That is what the experience from the  cap-and-trade program for acid rain suggests: costs came in well below  initial predictions. And in general, what the models do not and cannot  take into account is creativity; surely, faced with an economy in which  there are big monetary payoffs for reducing greenhouse-gas emissions,  the private sector will come up with ways to limit emissions that are  not yet in any model.<\/strong><\/p>\n<\/blockquote>\n<p>I<strong> <\/strong>have links to some of the key literature on this here:<\/p>\n<ul>\n<li><a id=\"destacado_5186\" title=\"Introduction to climate economics:  Why even strong climate  action has such a low total cost -- one tenth of a penny on the dollar\" href=\"http:\/\/climateprogress.org\/2009\/03\/30\/global-warming-economics-low-cost-high-benefit\/\">Introduction to climate economics:  Why even strong  climate action has such a low total cost &#8212; one tenth of a penny on the  dollar<\/a><\/li>\n<li><a title=\"Permanent Link to Despite its many flaws, EIA  analysis of climate bill finds 23 cents a day cost to families, massive  retirement of dirty coal plants and 119 GW of new renewables by 2030 \u2014  plus a million barrels a day oil savings\" rel=\"bookmark\" href=\"http:\/\/climateprogress.org\/2009\/08\/04\/energy-information-administration-analysis-of-climate-clean-energy-bill\/\">Despite its many flaws, EIA  analysis of climate bill finds 23 cents a day cost to families, massive  retirement of dirty coal plants and 119 GW of new renewables by 2030 \u2014  plus a million barrels a day oil savings<\/a><\/li>\n<li><a title=\"Permanent Link to New EPA analysis of Waxman-Markey:  Consumer  electric bills 7% lower in 2020 thanks to efficiency \u2014 plus 22 GW of  extra coal retirements and no new dirty plants\" rel=\"bookmark\" href=\"http:\/\/climateprogress.org\/2009\/07\/30\/2009\/06\/24\/new-epa-analysis-of-waxman-markey-consumer-electric-bills-lower-in-2020-energy-efficiency-coal-plant-retiremen\/\">New  EPA analysis of Waxman-Markey: Consumer electric bills 7% lower in 2020  thanks to efficiency \u2014 plus 22 GW of extra coal retirements and no new  dirty plants<\/a><\/li>\n<li><a title=\"Permanent Link to The triumph of energy efficiency:   Waxman-Markey could save $3,900 per household and create 650,000 jobs by  2030\" rel=\"bookmark\" href=\"http:\/\/climateprogress.org\/2009\/07\/30\/2009\/06\/09\/waxman-markey-energy-efficiency-savings-jobs\/\">The  triumph of energy efficiency:  Waxman-Markey could save $3,900 per  household and create 650,000 jobs by 2030<\/a><\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<p>And of course he discusses what scientific uncertainty means for economic modeling:<\/p>\n<blockquote>\n<p>Finally and most important is the matter of uncertainty. We\u2019re uncertain  about the magnitude of climate change, which is inevitable, because  we\u2019re talking about reaching levels of carbon dioxide in the atmosphere  not seen in millions of years. The recent doubling of many modelers\u2019  predictions for 2100 is itself an illustration of the scope of that  uncertainty; who knows what revisions may occur in the years ahead.  Beyond that, nobody really knows how much damage would result from  temperature rises of the kind now considered likely.<\/p>\n<p>You might think that this uncertainty weakens the case for action, but  it actually strengthens it. As <a title=\"More articles about Harvard University.\" href=\"http:\/\/topics.nytimes.com\/top\/reference\/timestopics\/organizations\/h\/harvard_university\/index.html?inline=nyt-org\">Harvard<\/a>\u2019s  Martin Weitzman has argued in several influential papers, if there is a  significant chance of utter catastrophe, that chance \u2014 rather than what  is most likely to happen \u2014 should dominate cost-benefit calculations.  And utter catastrophe does look like a realistic possibility, even if it  is not the most likely outcome.<\/p>\n<p>Weitzman argues \u2014 and I agree \u2014 that this risk of catastrophe, rather  than the details of cost-benefit calculations, makes the most powerful  case for strong climate policy. Current projections of global warming in  the absence of action are just too close to the kinds of numbers  associated with doomsday scenarios. It would be irresponsible \u2014 it\u2019s  tempting to say criminally irresponsible \u2014 not to step back from what  could all too easily turn out to be the edge of a cliff.<\/p>\n<\/blockquote>\n<p>For more on Weitzman, see<\/p>\n<ul>\n<li><a title=\"Permanent Link to Harvard economist: Climate  cost-benefit analyses are \u201cunusually misleading,\u201d warns colleagues \u201cwe  may be deluding ourselves and others\u201d\" rel=\"bookmark\" href=\"http:\/\/climateprogress.org\/2009\/01\/29\/martin-weitzman-climate-cost-benefit-analysis-fat-tail\/\">Harvard economist: Climate  cost-benefit analyses are \u201cunusually misleading,\u201d warns colleagues \u201cwe  may be deluding ourselves and others\u201d<\/a><\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<p>Krugman&#8217;s key conclusions are:<\/p>\n<blockquote>\n<p>Stern\u2019s moral argument for loving unborn generations as we love  ourselves may be too strong, but there\u2019s a compelling case to be made  that public policy should take a much longer view than private markets.  Even more important, the policy-ramp prescriptions seem far too much  like conducting a very risky experiment with the whole planet.  Nordhaus\u2019s preferred policy, for example, would stabilize the  concentration of carbon dioxide in the atmosphere at a level about twice  its preindustrial average. In his model, this would have only modest  effects on global welfare; but how confident can we be of that? How sure  are we that this kind of change in the environment would not lead to  catastrophe? Not sure enough, I\u2019d say, particularly because, as noted  above, climate modelers have sharply raised their estimates of future  warming in just the last couple of years.So what I end up with is basically Martin Weitzman\u2019s argument: it\u2019s the  nonnegligible probability of utter disaster that should dominate our  policy analysis. And that argues for aggressive moves to curb emissions,  soon&#8230;.<\/p>\n<p>If it does, the economic analysis will be ready. We know how to limit  greenhouse-gas emissions. We have a good sense of the costs \u2014 and  they\u2019re manageable. All we need now is the political will.<\/p>\n<\/blockquote>\n<p>Hear!\u00a0\u00a0 Hear!<\/p>\n<p>Related Post:<\/p>\n<ul>\n<li>\n<h4 id=\"post-10548\"><a title=\"Permanent Link to Scientists find \u201cnet present  value of climate change impacts\u201d of $1240 TRILLION on current emissions  path, making mitigation to under 450 ppm a must\" rel=\"bookmark\" href=\"http:\/\/climateprogress.org\/2009\/09\/08\/climate-change-adaptation-impacts-iied\/\">Scientists find \u201cnet  present value of climate change impacts\u201d of $1240 TRILLION on current  emissions path, making mitigation to under 450 ppm a must<\/a><\/h4>\n<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Nobelist Paul Krugman has a long piece in the upcoming Sunday NY Times Magazine, basically climate economics 101. It is nearly 8000 words, so while you should read the whole thing, I&#8217;ll post some of the highlights below.\u00a0 I&#8217;ll also throw some links to the scientific and economic literature that the NYT, in its infinite [&hellip;]<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":687,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"closed","ping_status":"closed","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"footnotes":""},"categories":[7],"tags":[],"class_list":["post-520531","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry","category-news"],"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/mereja.media\/index\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/520531","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/mereja.media\/index\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/mereja.media\/index\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/mereja.media\/index\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/687"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/mereja.media\/index\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=520531"}],"version-history":[{"count":0,"href":"https:\/\/mereja.media\/index\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/520531\/revisions"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/mereja.media\/index\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=520531"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/mereja.media\/index\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=520531"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/mereja.media\/index\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=520531"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}