{"id":521150,"date":"2010-04-08T13:57:02","date_gmt":"2010-04-08T17:57:02","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/www.grist.org\/article\/2010-04-08-paul-krugman-on-building-a-green-economy\/"},"modified":"2010-04-08T13:57:02","modified_gmt":"2010-04-08T17:57:02","slug":"paul-krugman-on-building-a-green-economy","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/mereja.media\/index\/521150","title":{"rendered":"Paul Krugman on &#8216;Building a Green Economy&#8217;"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>\t\t\t\tby Joseph Romm <\/p>\n<p>Nobelist Paul Krugman has a <a href=\"http:\/\/www.nytimes.com\/2010\/04\/11\/magazine\/11Economy-t.html\">long piece<\/a> in the upcoming Sunday New York Times Magazine, basically climate economics 101.<\/p>\n<p><\/p>\n<p>It is nearly 8000 words, so while you should read the whole thing,<br \/>\nI&#8217;ll post some of the highlights below. I&#8217;ll also throw some links to<br \/>\nthe scientific and economic literature that the NYT, in its infinite wisdom\/stupidity, refuses to include.<\/p>\n<p><\/p>\n<p>The essay isn&#8217;t primarily about the science, but this is what Krugman has to say on that, starting with the opening paragraph:<\/p>\n<p><strong>If you listen<\/strong> to climate scientists&#8212;and despite the relentless campaign to discredit their work, you should&#8212;it is long past time to do something about emissions of carbon<br \/>\ndioxide and other greenhouse gases. If we continue with business as<br \/>\nusual, they say, we are facing a rise in global temperatures that will<br \/>\nbe little short of apocalyptic. And to avoid that apocalypse, we have<br \/>\nto wean our economy from the use of fossil fuels, coal above all &#8230;<\/p>\n<p><\/p>\n<p>This is an article on climate economics, not climate science. But<br \/>\nbefore we get to the economics, it&#8217;s worth establishing three things<br \/>\nabout the state of the scientific debate. The first is that the planet<br \/>\nis indeed warming. Weather fluctuates, and as a consequence it&#8217;s easy<br \/>\nenough to point to an unusually warm year in the recent past, note that<br \/>\nit&#8217;s cooler now and claim, &#8220;See, the planet is getting cooler, not<br \/>\nwarmer!&#8221; But if you look at the evidence the right way &shy;&#8212;taking<br \/>\naverages over periods long enough to smooth out the fluctuations&#8212;the<br \/>\nupward trend is unmistakable: each successive decade since the 1970s<br \/>\nhas been warmer than the one before.<\/p>\n<p><\/p>\n<p>Second, climate models predicted this well in advance, even getting<br \/>\nthe magnitude of the temperature rise roughly right. While it&#8217;s<br \/>\nrelatively easy to cook up an analysis that matches known data, it is<br \/>\nmuch harder to create a model that accurately forecasts the future. So<br \/>\nthe fact that climate modelers more than 20 years ago successfully<br \/>\npredicted the subsequent global warming gives them enormous credibility.<\/p>\n<p><\/p>\n<p>Yet that&#8217;s not the conclusion you might draw from the many media<br \/>\nreports that have focused on matters like hacked email and climate<br \/>\nscientists&#8217; talking about a &#8220;trick&#8221; to &#8220;hide&#8221; an anomalous decline in<br \/>\none data series or expressing their wish to see papers by climate<br \/>\nskeptics kept out of research reviews. The truth, however, is that the<br \/>\nsupposed scandals evaporate on closer examination, revealing only that<br \/>\nclimate researchers are human beings, too. Yes, scientists try to make<br \/>\ntheir results stand out, but no data were suppressed. Yes, scientists<br \/>\ndislike it when work that they think deliberately obfuscates the issues<br \/>\ngets published. What else is new? Nothing suggests that there should<br \/>\nnot continue to be strong support for climate research.<strong><\/strong><\/p>\n<p><\/p>\n<p><strong>And this brings me to my third point: models based on this<br \/>\nresearch indicate that if we continue adding greenhouse gases to the<br \/>\natmosphere as we have, we will eventually face drastic changes in the<br \/>\nclimate. Let&#8217;s be clear. We&#8217;re not talking about a few more hot days in<br \/>\nthe summer and a bit less snow in the winter; we&#8217;re talking about<br \/>\nmassively disruptive events, like the transformation of the<br \/>\nSouthwestern United States into a permanent dust bowl over the next few<br \/>\ndecades.<\/strong><\/p>\n<p><\/p>\n<p>Now, despite the high credibility of climate modelers, there is<br \/>\nstill tremendous uncertainty in their long-term forecasts. But as we<br \/>\nwill see shortly, uncertainty makes the case for action stronger, not<br \/>\nweaker. So climate change demands action &#8230;<\/p>\n<p><\/p>\n<p>At this point, the projections of climate change, assuming we<br \/>\ncontinue business as usual, cluster around an estimate that average<br \/>\ntemperatures will be about 9 degrees Fahrenheit higher in 2100 than<br \/>\nthey were in 2000. That&#8217;s a lot&#8212;equivalent to the difference in<br \/>\naverage temperatures between New York and central Mississippi. Such a<br \/>\nhuge change would have to be highly disruptive. And the troubles would<br \/>\nnot stop there: temperatures would continue to rise.<\/p>\n<p><\/p>\n<p>Furthermore, changes in average temperature will by no means be the<br \/>\nwhole story. Precipitation patterns will change, with some regions<br \/>\ngetting much wetter and others much drier. Many modelers also predict<br \/>\nmore intense storms. Sea levels would rise, with the impact intensified<br \/>\nby those storms: coastal flooding, already a major source of natural<br \/>\ndisasters, would become much more frequent and severe. And there might<br \/>\nbe drastic changes in the climate of some regions as ocean currents<br \/>\nshift. It&#8217;s always worth bearing in mind that London is at the same<br \/>\nlatitude as Labrador; without the Gulf Stream, Western Europe would be<br \/>\nbarely habitable.<\/p>\n<p><\/p>\n<p>But there are at least two reasons to take sanguine assessments of<br \/>\nthe consequences of climate change with a grain of salt. One is that,<br \/>\nas I have just pointed out, it&#8217;s not just a matter of having warmer<br \/>\nweather&#8212;many of the costs of climate change are likely to result from<br \/>\ndroughts, flooding, and severe storms. The other is that while modern<br \/>\neconomies may be highly adaptable, the same may not be true of<br \/>\necosystems. The last time the earth experienced warming at anything<br \/>\nlike the pace we now expect was during the Paleocene-Eocene Thermal<br \/>\nMaximum, about 55 million years ago, when temperatures rose by about 11<br \/>\ndegrees Fahrenheit over the course of around 20,000 years (which is a<br \/>\nmuch slower rate than the current pace of warming). That increase was<br \/>\nassociated with mass extinctions, which, to put it mildly, probably<br \/>\nwould not be good for living standards &#8230;<\/p>\n<p>For what the science says we risk if we stay anywhere near our current path of unrestricted emissions, see:<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"http:\/\/climateprogress.org\/2010\/02\/18\/ocean-acidification-study-mass-extinction-of-marine-life-nature-geoscience\/\" rel=\"bookmark\" title=\"Permanent Link to Nature Geoscience study:   Oceans are  acidifying 10 times faster today than 55 million years ago  when a mass  extinction of marine species occurred\">Nature  Geoscience study: Oceans are acidifying 10 times faster today than 55 million<br \/>\nyears ago when a mass extinction of marine species occurred<\/a><br \/>\n<a href=\"http:\/\/climateprogress.org\/2009\/05\/20\/mit-doubles-global-warming-projections-2\/\" rel=\"bookmark\" title=\"Permanent Link to  M.I.T. doubles  its 2095 warming projection to 10&deg;F - with 866 ppm and  Arctic warming of  20&deg;F\">M.I.T.&nbsp;  doubles its 2095 warming projection to 10 degrees F &#8211; with 866 ppm and Arctic &nbsp; warming of 20 degrees F<\/a><br \/>\n<a href=\"http:\/\/climateprogress.org\/2009\/06\/15\/us-global-change-research-program-noaa-global-climate-change-impacts-in-united-states\/\" rel=\"bookmark\" title=\"Permanent Link to Our hellish future:    Definitive NOAA-led report on U.S. climate impacts warns of scorching  9  to 11&deg;F warming over most of inland U.S. by 2090 with Kansas above  90&deg;F  some 120 days a year - and that isn't the worst case, it's  business as  usual!\">Our<br \/>\nhellish future: Definitive NOAA-led report on U.S. climate impacts<br \/>\nwarns of scorching 9 to 11 degrees F warming over most of inland U.S. by 2090<br \/>\nwith Kansas above 90 degrees F some 120 days a year&#8212;and that isn&#8217;t the worst<br \/>\ncase, it&#8217;s business as usual!<\/a><br \/>\n<a href=\"http:\/\/climateprogress.org\/2009\/10\/18\/science-co2-levels-havent-been-this-high-for-15-million-years-when-it-was-5%c2%b0-to-10%c2%b0f-warmer-and-seas-were-75-to-120-feet-higher-we-have-shown-that-this-dramatic-rise-in-sea-level-i\/\" rel=\"bookmark\" title=\"Permanent Link to Science:  CO2 levels haven't been this high  for 15 million years, when it was 5&deg; to 10&deg;F warmer and seas were 75 to  120 feet higher - \">Science:<br \/>\nCO2 levels haven&#8217;t been this high for 15 million years, when it was 5<br \/>\nto 10 degrees F warmer and seas were 75 to 120 feet higher&#8212;&#8220;We have shown<br \/>\nthat this dramatic rise in sea level is associated with an increase in<br \/>\nCO2 levels of about 100 ppm.&#8221;<\/a><br \/>\n<a href=\"http:\/\/climateprogress.org\/2009\/03\/22\/an-introduction-to-global-warming-impacts-hell-and-high-water\/\" id=\"destacado_5124\" title=\"An introduction to global warming  impacts:   Hell and High Water \">An &nbsp; introduction to global warming impacts:&nbsp; Hell  and High Water <\/a><\/p>\n<p>He has a discussion of the low cost of action:<\/p>\n<p>Just as there is a rough consensus among climate<br \/>\nmodelers about the likely trajectory of temperatures if we do not act<br \/>\nto cut the emissions of greenhouse gases, there is a rough consensus<br \/>\namong economic modelers about the costs of action. That general opinion<br \/>\nmay be summed up as follows: Restricting emissions would slow economic<br \/>\ngrowth&#8212;but not by much.<strong> The Congressional Budget Office,<br \/>\nrelying on a survey of models, has concluded that Waxman-Markey &#8220;would<br \/>\nreduce the projected average annual rate of growth of gross domestic<br \/>\nproduct between 2010 and 2050 by 0.03 to 0.09 percentage points.&#8221;<\/strong> That is, it would trim average annual growth to 2.31 percent, at worst,<br \/>\nfrom 2.4 percent. Over all, the Budget Office concludes, strong<br \/>\nclimate-change policy would leave the American economy between 1.1<br \/>\npercent and 3.4 percent smaller in 2050 than it would be otherwise. And<br \/>\nwhat about the world economy? In general, modelers tend to find that<br \/>\nclimate-change policies would lower global output by a somewhat smaller<br \/>\npercentage than the comparable figures for the United States. The main<br \/>\nreason is that emerging economies like China currently use energy<br \/>\nfairly inefficiently, partly as a result of national policies that have<br \/>\nkept the prices of fossil fuels very low, and could thus achieve large<br \/>\nenergy savings at a modest cost. One recent review of the available<br \/>\nestimates put the costs of a very strong climate policy&#8212;substantially<br \/>\nmore aggressive than contemplated in current legislative proposals&#8212;at<br \/>\nbetween 1 and 3 percent of gross world product.<\/p>\n<p><\/p>\n<p>Such figures typically come from a model that combines all sorts of<br \/>\nengineering and marketplace estimates. These will include, for<br \/>\ninstance, engineers&#8217; best calculations of how much it costs to generate<br \/>\nelectricity in various ways, from coal, gas and nuclear and solar power<br \/>\nat given resource prices. Then estimates will be made, based on<br \/>\nhistorical experience, of how much consumers would cut back their<br \/>\nelectricity consumption if its price rises. The same process is<br \/>\nfollowed for other kinds of energy, like motor fuel. And the model<br \/>\nassumes that everyone makes the best choice given the economic<br \/>\nenvironment&#8212;that power generators choose the least expensive means of<br \/>\nproducing electricity, while consumers conserve energy as long as the<br \/>\nmoney saved by buying less electricity exceeds the cost of using less<br \/>\npower in the form either of other spending or loss of convenience.<br \/>\nAfter all this analysis, it&#8217;s possible to predict how producers and<br \/>\nconsumers of energy will react to policies that put a price on<br \/>\nemissions and how much those reactions will end up costing the economy<br \/>\nas a whole.<\/p>\n<p><\/p>\n<p>There are, of course, a number of ways this kind of modeling could<br \/>\nbe wrong. Many of the underlying estimates are necessarily somewhat<br \/>\nspeculative; nobody really knows, for instance, what solar power will<br \/>\ncost once it finally becomes a large-scale proposition. There is also<br \/>\nreason to doubt the assumption that people actually make the right<br \/>\nchoices: many studies have found that consumers fail to take measures<br \/>\nto conserve energy, like improving insulation, even when they could<br \/>\nsave money by doing so.<\/p>\n<p><\/p>\n<p>But while it&#8217;s unlikely that these models get everything right, <strong>it&#8217;s<br \/>\na good bet that they overstate rather than understate the economic<br \/>\ncosts of climate-change action. That is what the experience from the<br \/>\ncap-and-trade program for acid rain suggests: costs came in well below<br \/>\ninitial predictions. And in general, what the models do not and cannot<br \/>\ntake into account is creativity; surely, faced with an economy in which<br \/>\nthere are big monetary payoffs for reducing greenhouse-gas emissions,<br \/>\nthe private sector will come up with ways to limit emissions that are<br \/>\nnot yet in any model.<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>I<strong> <\/strong>have links to some of the key literature on this here:<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"http:\/\/climateprogress.org\/2009\/03\/30\/global-warming-economics-low-cost-high-benefit\/\" id=\"destacado_5186\" title=\"Introduction to climate economics:  Why even strong climate  action has such a low total cost -- one tenth of a penny on the dollar\">Introduction<br \/>\nto climate economics: Why even strong climate action has such a low<br \/>\ntotal cost&#8212;one tenth of a penny on the dollar<\/a><br \/>\n<a href=\"http:\/\/climateprogress.org\/2009\/08\/04\/energy-information-administration-analysis-of-climate-clean-energy-bill\/\" rel=\"bookmark\" title=\"Permanent Link to Despite its many flaws, EIA  analysis of climate bill finds 23 cents a day cost to families, massive  retirement of dirty coal plants and 119 GW of new renewables by 2030 -  plus a million barrels a day oil savings\">Despite<br \/>\nits many flaws, EIA analysis of climate bill finds 23 cents a day cost<br \/>\nto families, massive retirement of dirty coal plants and 119 GW of new<br \/>\nrenewables by 2030&#8212;plus a million barrels a day oil savings<\/a><br \/>\n<a href=\"http:\/\/climateprogress.org\/2009\/07\/30\/2009\/06\/24\/new-epa-analysis-of-waxman-markey-consumer-electric-bills-lower-in-2020-energy-efficiency-coal-plant-retiremen\/\" rel=\"bookmark\" title=\"Permanent Link to New EPA analysis of Waxman-Markey:  Consumer  electric bills 7% lower in 2020 thanks to efficiency - plus 22 GW of  extra coal retirements and no new dirty plants\">New<br \/>\nEPA analysis of Waxman-Markey: Consumer electric bills 7 percent lower in 2020<br \/>\nthanks to efficiency&#8212;plus 22 GW of extra coal retirements and no new<br \/>\ndirty plants<\/a><br \/>\n<a href=\"http:\/\/climateprogress.org\/2009\/07\/30\/2009\/06\/09\/waxman-markey-energy-efficiency-savings-jobs\/\" rel=\"bookmark\" title=\"Permanent Link to The triumph of energy efficiency:   Waxman-Markey could save $3,900 per household and create 650,000 jobs by  2030\">The  triumph of energy efficiency:&nbsp; Waxman-Markey could save $3,900 per  household and create 650,000 jobs by 2030<\/a><\/p>\n<p>And of course he discusses what scientific uncertainty means for economic modeling:<\/p>\n<p>Finally and most important is the matter of uncertainty.<br \/>\nWe&#8217;re uncertain about the magnitude of climate change, which is<br \/>\ninevitable, because we&#8217;re talking about reaching levels of carbon<br \/>\ndioxide in the atmosphere not seen in millions of years. The recent<br \/>\ndoubling of many modelers&#8217; predictions for 2100 is itself an<br \/>\nillustration of the scope of that uncertainty; who knows what revisions<br \/>\nmay occur in the years ahead. Beyond that, nobody really knows how much<br \/>\ndamage would result from temperature rises of the kind now considered<br \/>\nlikely.<\/p>\n<p><\/p>\n<p>You might think that this uncertainty weakens the case for action, but  it actually strengthens it. As <a href=\"http:\/\/topics.nytimes.com\/top\/reference\/timestopics\/organizations\/h\/harvard_university\/index.html?inline=nyt-org\" title=\"More articles about Harvard University.\">Harvard<\/a>&#8216;s<br \/>\nMartin Weitzman has argued in several influential papers, if there is a<br \/>\nsignificant chance of utter catastrophe, that chance&#8212;rather than what<br \/>\nis most likely to happen&#8212;should dominate cost-benefit calculations.<br \/>\nAnd utter catastrophe does look like a realistic possibility, even if<br \/>\nit is not the most likely outcome.<\/p>\n<p><\/p>\n<p>Weitzman argues&#8212;and I agree&#8212;that this risk of catastrophe,<br \/>\nrather than the details of cost-benefit calculations, makes the most<br \/>\npowerful case for strong climate policy. Current projections of global<br \/>\nwarming in the absence of action are just too close to the kinds of<br \/>\nnumbers associated with doomsday scenarios. It would be irresponsible&#8212;it&#8217;s tempting to say criminally irresponsible&#8212;not to step back from<br \/>\nwhat could all too easily turn out to be the edge of a cliff.<\/p>\n<p>For more on Weitzman, see<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"http:\/\/climateprogress.org\/2009\/01\/29\/martin-weitzman-climate-cost-benefit-analysis-fat-tail\/\" rel=\"bookmark\" title=\"Permanent Link to Harvard economist: Climate  cost-benefit analyses are \">Harvard<br \/>\neconomist: Climate cost-benefit analyses are &#8220;unusually misleading,&#8221;<br \/>\nwarns colleagues &#8220;we may be deluding ourselves and others&#8221;<\/a><\/p>\n<p>Krugman&#8217;s key conclusions are:<\/p>\n<p>Stern&#8217;s moral argument for loving unborn generations as<br \/>\nwe love ourselves may be too strong, but there&#8217;s a compelling case to<br \/>\nbe made that public policy should take a much longer view than private<br \/>\nmarkets. Even more important, the policy-ramp prescriptions seem far<br \/>\ntoo much like conducting a very risky experiment with the whole planet.<br \/>\nNordhaus&#8217;s preferred policy, for example, would stabilize the<br \/>\nconcentration of carbon dioxide in the atmosphere at a level about<br \/>\ntwice its preindustrial average. In his model, this would have only<br \/>\nmodest effects on global welfare; but how confident can we be of that?<br \/>\nHow sure are we that this kind of change in the environment would not<br \/>\nlead to catastrophe? Not sure enough, I&#8217;d say, particularly because, as<br \/>\nnoted above, climate modelers have sharply raised their estimates of<br \/>\nfuture warming in just the last couple of years. So what I end up with<br \/>\nis basically Martin Weitzman&#8217;s argument: it&#8217;s the nonnegligible<br \/>\nprobability of utter disaster that should dominate our policy analysis.<br \/>\nAnd that argues for aggressive moves to curb emissions, soon &#8230;<\/p>\n<p><\/p>\n<p>If it does, the economic analysis will be ready. We know how to<br \/>\nlimit greenhouse-gas emissions. We have a good sense of the costs&#8212;and<br \/>\nthey&#8217;re manageable. All we need now is the political will.<\/p>\n<p>Hear! Hear!<\/p>\n<p><strong>Related Links:<\/strong><\/p>\n<p><a href=\"http:\/\/www.grist.org\/article\/2010-04-08-the-problem-with-a-green-economy-economics-hates-the-environment\/\">The problem with a green economy: economics hates the environment<\/a><\/p>\n<p><a href=\"http:\/\/www.grist.org\/article\/2010-04-08-revkin-wants-to-talk-energy-quest-not-climate-crisis\/\">Revkin wants to talk &#8216;energy quest&#8217; not &#8216;climate crisis&#8217;<\/a><\/p>\n<p><a href=\"http:\/\/www.grist.org\/article\/2010-04-08-krugman-makes-clear-climate-action-necessary-affordable\/\">Krugman says what political media won&#8217;t: economists agree climate action is necessary, affordable<\/a><\/p>\n<p>\t\t\t<br clear=\"both\" style=\"clear: both;\"\/><br \/>\n<br clear=\"both\" style=\"clear: both;\"\/><br \/>\n<a href=\"http:\/\/ads.pheedo.com\/click.phdo?s=e027745a4b005f4879797d48f410ab41&#038;p=1\"><img decoding=\"async\" alt=\"\" style=\"border: 0;\" border=\"0\" src=\"http:\/\/ads.pheedo.com\/img.phdo?s=e027745a4b005f4879797d48f410ab41&#038;p=1\"\/><\/a><br \/>\n<!-- foo --><\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>by Joseph Romm Nobelist Paul Krugman has a long piece in the upcoming Sunday New York Times Magazine, basically climate economics 101. It is nearly 8000 words, so while you should read the whole thing, I&#8217;ll post some of the highlights below. I&#8217;ll also throw some links to the scientific and economic literature that the [&hellip;]<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":765,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"closed","ping_status":"closed","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"footnotes":""},"categories":[7],"tags":[],"class_list":["post-521150","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry","category-news"],"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/mereja.media\/index\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/521150","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/mereja.media\/index\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/mereja.media\/index\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/mereja.media\/index\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/765"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/mereja.media\/index\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=521150"}],"version-history":[{"count":0,"href":"https:\/\/mereja.media\/index\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/521150\/revisions"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/mereja.media\/index\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=521150"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/mereja.media\/index\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=521150"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/mereja.media\/index\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=521150"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}