{"id":535921,"date":"2010-04-20T20:01:00","date_gmt":"2010-04-21T00:01:00","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/techdirt.com\/articles\/20100420\/1042189110.shtml"},"modified":"2010-04-20T20:01:00","modified_gmt":"2010-04-21T00:01:00","slug":"escapist-website-mass-bans-then-unbans-and-guilts-users-who-mention-adblock","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/mereja.media\/index\/535921","title":{"rendered":"Escapist Website Mass Bans (Then Unbans And Guilts) Users Who Mention Adblock"},"content":{"rendered":"<p><a href=\"http:\/\/www.techdirt.com\/profile.php?u=chodelord\">Chodelord<\/a> writes<em> <\/em>in to note that the <em>Escapist<\/em> website recently decided it would be a good idea to ban users from&nbsp; their forums simply for mentioning Adblock.&nbsp;The <a href=\"http:\/\/www.escapistmagazine.com\/forums\/read\/18.189437-ESCAPIST-Fix-your-ads?page=1\">thread in question<\/a> started after a user complained that an add for Time Warner Cable was slowing down his computer. Apparently, users who responded to the poster by suggesting the user &quot;get Firefox and AdBlock&quot; found themselves banned from the forums. Users didn&#8217;t even need to admit they even used AdBlock to get banned &#8212; they simply had to recommend it as a solution to a seemingly-annoying ad. Looking at the forums <span><a href=\"http:\/\/www.escapistmagazine.com\/forums\/read\/9.116827-These-forums-and-you-Forum-Posting-Guidelines\">recently amended posting guidelines<\/a> does confirm that the folks at the <em>Escapist<\/em> believe<\/span> that giving <strong>browsing  preference<\/strong> advice is a &quot;non forgivable&quot; offense:<\/p>\n<blockquote><p>Do not confess, teach, admit to, or promote  ad-blocking software that will allow users to block the ads of this  site.<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p>Indeed. Users quickly (and justly) started complaining about the fact that friends they&#8217;d had for years were suddenly being bashed over the head with the ban hammer simply for mentioning an incredibly popular and legal application. After a lot of complaints, the <em>Escapist<\/em> ultimately wound up unbanning the users according to a <a href=\"http:\/\/www.escapistmagazine.com\/forums\/read\/18.189437-ESCAPIST-Fix-your-ads?page=4#5870903\">forum post<\/a>, and instead just settled on trying to make the community feel <strong>really guilty<\/strong>:<\/p>\n<blockquote><p>I truely hope that everyone that reads this will consider turning off their ad-blocker for this site. If we have offended you or you don&#8217;t deem this site to be worthy (and would like to have it shut down instead), do what you will, but don&#8217;t pretend to be surprised if the site dies.<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p>While it&#8217;s nice that the <em>Escapist<\/em> listened to their community, saw reason, and backed away from their ridiculous decision, that doesn&#8217;t make the decision any less ridiculous (and while they reversed course, the posting guidelines remain unchanged). It also doesn&#8217;t justify telling your readers that they&#8217;re responsible for the failure of your business model should users decide to block annoying ads. <a href=\"http:\/\/www.techdirt.com\/articles\/20100306\/1649198451.shtml\">As Ars Technica recently found out<\/a>, mandating what your users can and can&#8217;t do with their own browsers doesn&#8217;t exactly foster adoration within your community to begin with, but subsequently telling those users they should take a hike if they don&#8217;t like your position (or in this case even mention ad blockers) isn&#8217;t particularly endearing, either.<\/p>\n<p>As we&#8217;ve <a href=\"http:\/\/www.techdirt.com\/articles\/20100306\/1649198451.shtml\">mentioned previously in great detail<\/a>, if you&#8217;ve got ads on your website that are annoying your users, that is your fault &#8212; not your users&#8217; fault. The failure of your business model is also your problem, not theirs. It&#8217;s up to you to develop a new model that doesn&#8217;t involve your users being annoyed. Meanwhile, telling your users (essentially) that they&#8217;re worthless if they don&#8217;t directly generate ad revenue is misguided. Site visitors bring value to your website in other ways &#8212; whether they block your advertisements or not &#8212; through conversation, participation and links to your content. Of course none of that will happen if you treat them like escaped felons for simply discussing their browser plugins.<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"http:\/\/techdirt.com\/articles\/20100420\/1042189110.shtml\">Permalink<\/a> | <a href=\"http:\/\/techdirt.com\/articles\/20100420\/1042189110.shtml#comments\">Comments<\/a> | <a href=\"http:\/\/techdirt.com\/article.php?sid=20100420\/1042189110&#038;op=sharethis\">Email This Story<\/a><br \/>\n <br clear=\"both\" style=\"clear: both;\"\/><br \/>\n<br clear=\"both\" style=\"clear: both;\"\/><br \/>\n<a href=\"http:\/\/ads.pheedo.com\/click.phdo?s=a1136321e4bc7b46b1c6a7af9dc4b3ad&#038;p=1\"><img decoding=\"async\" alt=\"\" style=\"border: 0;\" border=\"0\" src=\"http:\/\/ads.pheedo.com\/img.phdo?s=a1136321e4bc7b46b1c6a7af9dc4b3ad&#038;p=1\"\/><\/a><br \/>\n<img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" alt=\"\" height=\"0\" width=\"0\" border=\"0\" style=\"display:none\" src=\"http:\/\/ib.adnxs.com\/seg?add=24595&#038;t=2\"\/><\/p>\n<div class=\"feedflare\">\n<a href=\"http:\/\/feeds.techdirt.com\/~ff\/techdirt\/feed?a=GkdqN4jeYlg:5D_g-ecnMlg:D7DqB2pKExk\"><img decoding=\"async\" src=\"http:\/\/feeds.feedburner.com\/~ff\/techdirt\/feed?i=GkdqN4jeYlg:5D_g-ecnMlg:D7DqB2pKExk\" border=\"0\"><\/img><\/a> <a href=\"http:\/\/feeds.techdirt.com\/~ff\/techdirt\/feed?a=GkdqN4jeYlg:5D_g-ecnMlg:c-S6u7MTCTE\"><img decoding=\"async\" src=\"http:\/\/feeds.feedburner.com\/~ff\/techdirt\/feed?d=c-S6u7MTCTE\" border=\"0\"><\/img><\/a>\n<\/div>\n<p><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" src=\"http:\/\/feeds.feedburner.com\/~r\/techdirt\/feed\/~4\/GkdqN4jeYlg\" height=\"1\" width=\"1\"\/><\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Chodelord writes in to note that the Escapist website recently decided it would be a good idea to ban users from&nbsp; their forums simply for mentioning Adblock.&nbsp;The thread in question started after a user complained that an add for Time Warner Cable was slowing down his computer. Apparently, users who responded to the poster by [&hellip;]<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":6723,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"closed","ping_status":"closed","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"footnotes":""},"categories":[7],"tags":[],"class_list":["post-535921","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry","category-news"],"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/mereja.media\/index\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/535921","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/mereja.media\/index\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/mereja.media\/index\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/mereja.media\/index\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/6723"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/mereja.media\/index\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=535921"}],"version-history":[{"count":0,"href":"https:\/\/mereja.media\/index\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/535921\/revisions"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/mereja.media\/index\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=535921"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/mereja.media\/index\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=535921"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/mereja.media\/index\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=535921"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}