{"id":541960,"date":"2010-04-23T11:33:00","date_gmt":"2010-04-23T15:33:00","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/www.businessinsider.com\/goldman-sachs-european-pensions-2010-4"},"modified":"2010-04-23T11:33:00","modified_gmt":"2010-04-23T15:33:00","slug":"its-not-just-european-governments-that-have-massive-pension-problems-companies-are-getting-hammered-too","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/mereja.media\/index\/541960","title":{"rendered":"It&#8217;s Not Just European GOVERNMENTS That Have Massive Pension Problems&#8211;Companies Are Getting Hammered, Too"},"content":{"rendered":"<p><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"float_right\" src=\"http:\/\/static.businessinsider.com\/image\/4bd1aa6c7f8b9a0766cf0000-275-206\/gs-pensions.jpg\" border=\"0\" alt=\"GS Pensions\" width=\"275\" height=\"206\" \/><\/p>\n<p>Right now, talk of a European debt crisis is centering on the potential of Greek default.&nbsp; Investors are also worried about whether IMF-EU assistance will be enough to save the struggling nation, and whether the crisis will spread to the rest of the PIIGS.<\/p>\n<p>But debt isn&#8217;t just a problem for European governments.&nbsp; The private sector is suffering through a large amount of off-balance sheet debts due to pension problems, and it&#8217;s causing growth and market-value problems for some of Europe&#8217;s biggest industries.<\/p>\n<p>(Need we mention that we have the same problem here?).<\/p>\n<p>Here are the highlights of an excellent presentation on the European debt problem from Goldman Sachs.<\/p>\n<h2>Pension solvency is a serious issue for even the best companies in Europe<\/h2>\n<div class=\"image-container slide-image\"><img decoding=\"async\" src=\"http:\/\/static.businessinsider.com\/image\/4bd1aa697f8b9af965340100-400-300\/pension-solvency-is-a-serious-issue-for-even-the-best-companies-in-europe.jpg\" alt=\"Pension solvency is a serious issue for even the best companies in Europe\" border=\"0\" class=\"slide-image\" \/><\/div>\n<p><em>Source: Goldman Sachs<\/em><\/p>\n<p><\/p>\n<h2>Returns have gone up, and pension contributions have declined as a result.<\/h2>\n<div class=\"image-container slide-image\"><img decoding=\"async\" src=\"http:\/\/static.businessinsider.com\/image\/4bd1aa697f8b9a1d26770600-400-300\/returns-have-gone-up-and-pension-contributions-have-declined-as-a-result.jpg\" alt=\"Returns have gone up, and pension contributions have declined as a result.\" border=\"0\" class=\"slide-image\" \/><\/div>\n<p><em>Source: Goldman Sachs<\/em><\/p>\n<p><\/p>\n<h2>But firms still have a tremendous amount of liabilities (pension and other).<\/h2>\n<div class=\"image-container slide-image\"><img decoding=\"async\" src=\"http:\/\/static.businessinsider.com\/image\/4bd1aa6b7f8b9a17648a0100-400-300\/but-firms-still-have-a-tremendous-amount-of-liabilities-pension-and-other.jpg\" alt=\"But firms still have a tremendous amount of liabilities (pension and other).\" border=\"0\" class=\"slide-image\" \/><\/div>\n<p><em>Source: Goldman Sachs<\/em><\/p>\n<p><\/p>\n<h2>In bad times for the market, pensions have far higher expenses, because companies have to cover the gap created by the falling assets.<\/h2>\n<div class=\"image-container slide-image\"><img decoding=\"async\" src=\"http:\/\/static.businessinsider.com\/image\/4bd1aa6b7f8b9aac63130200-400-300\/in-bad-times-for-the-market-pensions-have-far-higher-expenses-because-companies-have-to-cover-the-gap-created-by-the-falling-assets.jpg\" alt=\"In bad times for the market, pensions have far higher expenses, because companies have to cover the gap created by the falling assets.\" border=\"0\" class=\"slide-image\" \/><\/div>\n<p><em>Source: Goldman Sachs<\/em><\/p>\n<p><\/p>\n<h2>Greece is unsurprisingly in a bad place.  But so are Austria, Italy, Spain, Belgium, and others<\/h2>\n<div class=\"image-container slide-image\"><img decoding=\"async\" src=\"http:\/\/static.businessinsider.com\/image\/4bd1aa6c7f8b9a0766cf0000-400-300\/greece-is-unsurprisingly-in-a-bad-place-but-so-are-austria-italy-spain-belgium-and-others.jpg\" alt=\"Greece is unsurprisingly in a bad place.  But so are Austria, Italy, Spain, Belgium, and others\" border=\"0\" class=\"slide-image\" \/><\/div>\n<p><em>Source: Goldman Sachs<\/em><\/p>\n<p><\/p>\n<h2>Auto companies are in difficult shape, but real estate remains strong.<\/h2>\n<div class=\"image-container slide-image\"><img decoding=\"async\" src=\"http:\/\/static.businessinsider.com\/image\/4bd1aa6c7f8b9a17648e0100-400-300\/auto-companies-are-in-difficult-shape-but-real-estate-remains-strong.jpg\" alt=\"Auto companies are in difficult shape, but real estate remains strong.\" border=\"0\" class=\"slide-image\" \/><\/div>\n<p><em>Source: Goldman Sachs<\/em><\/p>\n<p><\/p>\n<h2>The larger a company&#8217;s pension obligations are, the lower its PE is<\/h2>\n<div class=\"image-container slide-image\"><img decoding=\"async\" src=\"http:\/\/static.businessinsider.com\/image\/4bd1aa677f8b9aaa26a90300-400-300\/the-larger-a-companys-pension-obligations-are-the-lower-its-pe-is.jpg\" alt=\"The larger a company's pension obligations are, the lower its PE is\" border=\"0\" class=\"slide-image\" \/><\/div>\n<p><em>Source: Goldman Sachs<\/em><\/p>\n<p><\/p>\n<h2>Low solvency is seen as the worst pension attribute, with equity allocation not far behind.<\/h2>\n<div class=\"image-container slide-image\"><img decoding=\"async\" src=\"http:\/\/static.businessinsider.com\/image\/4bd1aa687f8b9a18278c0000-400-300\/low-solvency-is-seen-as-the-worst-pension-attribute-with-equity-allocation-not-far-behind.jpg\" alt=\"Low solvency is seen as the worst pension attribute, with equity allocation not far behind.\" border=\"0\" class=\"slide-image\" \/><\/div>\n<p><em>Source: Goldman Sachs<\/em><\/p>\n<p><\/p>\n<h2>Companies with large pension obligations get hit more in a bear market because asset prices typically decline.<\/h2>\n<div class=\"image-container slide-image\"><img decoding=\"async\" src=\"http:\/\/static.businessinsider.com\/image\/4bd1aa6a7f8b9aa0268e0300-400-300\/companies-with-large-pension-obligations-get-hit-more-in-a-bear-market-because-asset-prices-typically-decline.jpg\" alt=\"Companies with large pension obligations get hit more in a bear market because asset prices typically decline.\" border=\"0\" class=\"slide-image\" \/><\/div>\n<p><em>Source: Goldman Sachs<\/em><\/p>\n<p><\/p>\n<h2>Pensions are still choosing to stay away from equities&#8230;which means they&#8217;ve missed a lot of the recent rally<\/h2>\n<div class=\"image-container slide-image\"><img decoding=\"async\" src=\"http:\/\/static.businessinsider.com\/image\/4bd1aa6c7f8b9ada2e8b0100-400-300\/pensions-are-still-choosing-to-stay-away-from-equitieswhich-means-theyve-missed-a-lot-of-the-recent-rally.jpg\" alt=\"Pensions are still choosing to stay away from equities...which means they've missed a lot of the recent rally\" border=\"0\" class=\"slide-image\" \/><\/div>\n<p><em>Source: Goldman Sachs<\/em><\/p>\n<p><\/p>\n<h2>Having more equities does not make your pension fund under perform.<\/h2>\n<div class=\"image-container slide-image\"><img decoding=\"async\" src=\"http:\/\/static.businessinsider.com\/image\/4bd1aa6a7f8b9a1c27e00000-400-300\/having-more-equities-does-not-make-your-pension-fund-under-perform.jpg\" alt=\"Having more equities does not make your pension fund under perform.\" border=\"0\" class=\"slide-image\" \/><\/div>\n<p><em>Source: Goldman Sachs<\/em><\/p>\n<p><\/p>\n<h2>But private companies in Europe are still doing better than governments.  Check out the awful state of European public debt.<\/h2>\n<div class=\"image-container slide-image\"><img decoding=\"async\" src=\"http:\/\/static.businessinsider.com\/image\/b437544bf15995491fcb2200-400-300\/but-private-companies-in-europe-are-still-doing-better-than-governments-check-out-the-awful-state-of-european-public-debt.jpg\" alt=\"But private companies in Europe are still doing better than governments.  Check out the awful state of European public debt.\" border=\"0\" class=\"slide-image\" \/><\/div>\n<h2><a href=\"http:\/\/www.businessinsider.com\/europe-public-sector-debt-crisis-2010-4#government-debt-is-going-gangbusters-across-the-developed-world-1\">See the European debt crisis with your own eyes &gt;<\/a><\/h2>\n<p><a href=\"http:\/\/www.businessinsider.com\/goldman-sachs-european-pensions-2010-4#comments\">Join the conversation about this story &#187;<\/a><\/p>\n<p><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" src=\"http:\/\/feeds.feedburner.com\/~r\/TheMoneyGame\/~4\/iJY35r1eVzU\" height=\"1\" width=\"1\"\/><\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Right now, talk of a European debt crisis is centering on the potential of Greek default.&nbsp; Investors are also worried about whether IMF-EU assistance will be enough to save the struggling nation, and whether the crisis will spread to the rest of the PIIGS. But debt isn&#8217;t just a problem for European governments.&nbsp; The private [&hellip;]<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":1977,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"closed","ping_status":"closed","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"footnotes":""},"categories":[7],"tags":[],"class_list":["post-541960","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry","category-news"],"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/mereja.media\/index\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/541960","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/mereja.media\/index\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/mereja.media\/index\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/mereja.media\/index\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/1977"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/mereja.media\/index\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=541960"}],"version-history":[{"count":0,"href":"https:\/\/mereja.media\/index\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/541960\/revisions"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/mereja.media\/index\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=541960"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/mereja.media\/index\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=541960"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/mereja.media\/index\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=541960"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}