{"id":542543,"date":"2010-04-24T11:17:36","date_gmt":"2010-04-24T15:17:36","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/climateprogress.org\/?p=23524"},"modified":"2010-04-24T11:17:36","modified_gmt":"2010-04-24T15:17:36","slug":"re-discredited-climate-denialists-in-denial-the-fact-remains-that-the-overwhelming-body-of-evidence-suggests-that-the-alarmists-fears-are-grounded-in-empirical-reality","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/mereja.media\/index\/542543","title":{"rendered":"Re-discredited climate denialists in denial &#8211; &#8220;The fact remains that the overwhelming body of evidence suggests that the alarmists&#8217; fears are grounded in empirical reality.&#8221;"},"content":{"rendered":"<blockquote>\n<p>&#8220;Climate Science In Denial,&#8221; reads  a <em>Wall Street Journal<\/em> op-ed headline. &#8220;Global warming alarmists  have been discredited, but you wouldn&#8217;t know it from the rhetoric this  Earth Day.&#8221;<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"http:\/\/www.theatlantic.com\/politics\/archive\/2010\/04\/climate-denialists-in-denial\/39408\/\">Actually, the subhead should be revised<\/a>: &#8220;Global warming denialists have been re-discredited, but you wouldn&#8217;t know it from the rhetoric in today&#8217;s <em>Wall Street Journal<\/em>.&#8221; Far be it from me, a non-scientist, to dispute the scientific expertise of an MIT professor of meteorology, Richard Lindzen, but then again, Lindzen&#8217;s selective recitation of the litany of arguments against global warming practically begs a rebuttal.<\/p>\n<\/blockquote>\n<p><em>The Atlantic<\/em> hasn&#8217;t exactly been at the cutting edge of climate  science (see &#8220;<a title=\"Permanent Link to People Who Just Don\u2019t Get  Global Warming:  Gregg Easterbrook and the Editors of the Atlantic\" rel=\"bookmark\" href=\"http:\/\/climateprogress.org\/2007\/03\/12\/people-who-just-dont-get-global-warming-gregg-easterbrook-and-the-editors-of-the-atlantic\/\">People  Who Just Don\u2019t Get Global Warming:  Gregg Easterbrook and the Editors  of the <em>Atlantic<\/em><\/a>).\u00a0 So it was doubly nice to see this piece, &#8220;<a href=\"http:\/\/www.theatlantic.com\/politics\/archive\/2010\/04\/climate-denialists-in-denial\/39408\/\">Climate  Denialists in Denial<\/a><a href=\"http:\/\/www.theatlantic.com\/politics\/archive\/2010\/04\/climate-denialists-in-denial\/39408\/\">st<\/a>,&#8221;  by Marc  Ambinder, their politics editor (and chief political  consultant to CBS News).<\/p>\n<p><span id=\"more-23524\"><\/span>Ambinder doesn&#8217;t know that Lindzen is one of the most debunked\u00a0 climate scientists in the world (see <a title=\"Permanent Link to Lindzen debunked again: New scientific study finds his paper downplaying dangers of human-caused warming is \u201cseriously in error\u201d\" rel=\"bookmark\" href=\"http:\/\/climateprogress.org\/2010\/01\/11\/science-lindzen-debunked-again-positive-negative-feedbacks-clouds-tropics\/\">Lindzen debunked again: New scientific study finds his paper downplaying dangers of human-caused warming is \u201cseriously in error\u201d<\/a>:\u00a0 Trenberth: The flaws in Lindzen-Choi paper &#8220;have all the appearance of the authors having contrived to get the answer they got&#8221;).<\/p>\n<p>But Ambinder still does a great job on Lindzen in this piece:<\/p>\n<p><em> <\/em><\/p>\n<blockquote>\n<p>First, he mentions &#8220;Climate  Gate&#8221; &#8212; those e-mails from the Climate Research Unit from the  University of East Anglia. He suggests that the e-mails show  &#8220;unambiguous evidence of the unethical suppression of information and  opposing viewpoints, and even data manipulation.&#8221;<\/p>\n<p>The  e-mails were actually quite ambiguous and contained evidence of  churlishness and defensiveness from scientists whose data had long been  under attack from climate denialists.<\/p>\n<p>For some  reason Lindzen presumes that &#8220;one might have thought the revelations  would discredit the allegedly settled science underlying the currently  proposed global warming policy,&#8221; without specifying what those  &#8220;revelations&#8221; were.<\/p>\n<p>Two investigations, one conducted by  the British government and one conducted by the university, as well as  methodological reviews by the journals where some of the research  mentioned in the e-mails, concluded that no data was manipulated and no  legitimate (i.e., scientifically grounded) opposing views were  supressed. So, of course, Lindzen finds the investigations &#8220;thoroughly  lacking in depth&#8221; and &#8220;whitewashes.&#8221; You can read the government report\u00a0<a style=\"text-decoration: underline;\" href=\"http:\/\/www.desmogblog.com\/sites\/beta.desmogblog.com\/files\/phil%20jones%20house%20of%20commons%20report.pdf\">here<\/a> and make up your own mind.<\/p>\n<p>To  go into detail on but one point: on the allegation that CRU scientists  artifically adjusted (or corrected for) data from tree ring analysis  that supposedly showed no warming after 1960, the review found that the  corrective mechanisms were\u00a0<a style=\"text-decoration: underline;\" href=\"http:\/\/deepclimate.org\/2010\/03\/10\/mcclimategate-continues-yet-another-false-accusation-from-mcintyre-and-mckitrick\">NOT<\/a>, in fact, applied to the  data published by CRU and were, instead, an appropriate possible way of  dealing with methodological discrepancies that result from\u00a0<a style=\"text-decoration: underline;\" href=\"ttp:\/\/www.nature.com\/nature\/journal\/v391\/n6668\/abs\/391678a0.html\">measuring tree ring data<\/a>.<\/p>\n<p>A  while later, Lindzen makes this curious claim about the International  Panel on Climate Change&#8217;s conclusions: &#8220;For example, [their]  observations are consistent with models only if emissions include  arbitrary amounts of reflecting aerosols particles (arising, for  example, from industrial sulfates) which are used to cancel much of the  warming predicted by the models. The observations themselves, without  such adjustments, are consistent with there being sufficiently little  warming as to not constitute a problem worth worrying very much about.&#8221;<\/p>\n<p>First,  the addition of aerosols to the models aren&#8217;t arbitrary. As Tim  Flannery explains for a lay audience in &#8220;The Weather Makers,&#8221; from 1940  to 1970, aerosol particles in the atmosphere helped to counterbalance  the effect of global warming. Once technology advanced to scrub aerosols  from emitters, the cooling trend slowed. Numerous natural and man-made  experiments have confirmed, and testable hypotheses have been  successfully validated, to figure out exactly how aerosol emissions  change temperature predictions.<\/p>\n<p>(Prediction: in the  absence of jet contrails, daytime temperatures in developed areas will  be higher because there will be less &#8220;stuff&#8221; in the atmosphere to  reflect sunlight, thus cooling the earth. Result: check the daytime  temperature figures for the days following 9\/11 when airplanes were  grounded.)<\/p>\n<p>Flannery notes that the two forces  would seem to balance out &#8212; but they don&#8217;t, since we&#8217;re producing fewer  aerosols and more CO2. That would seem to suggest that we should do  more to reduce CO2 emissions, not less, if we&#8217;re worried about future  warming&#8230;.<\/p>\n<p>The  discussion of aerosols and CO2 brings us to a larger question:  temperature models vary considerably. Interesting how denialists often  suggest that scientists rig these models to show warming and THEN use  the same models to show how wide the variation in expected temperatures  could be. If anything, what evidence there is of actual warming suggests  that the less conservative modeling is more accurate.<\/p>\n<p>Then  Lindzen writes about how some French academics have published books  criticizing global warming advocates for being too alarmist in their  predictions. Then he ends the op-ed by suggesting that the matter is  settled. One can agree that global warming advocates can be alarmist,  that they can hype the negative effects of the less conservative models,  and that they can often present their conclusions with more certainty  than is warranted.<\/p>\n<p><strong>But the fact remains that  the overwhelming body of evidence suggests that the alarmists&#8217; fears are  grounded in empirical reality.<\/strong><\/p>\n<\/blockquote>\n<p>Precisely (see &#8220;<a id=\"destacado_5124\" title=\"An introduction to global warming impacts:  Hell and High Water \" href=\"http:\/\/climateprogress.org\/2009\/03\/22\/an-introduction-to-global-warming-impacts-hell-and-high-water\/\">Intro. to global warming impacts:  Hell and High Water<\/a>&#8220;)<\/p>\n<p>For a debunking of Lindzen&#8217;s one remaining big idea \u2014 that clouds are negative feedback &#8212; see <a title=\"Permanent Link to Science stunner:  \u201cClouds Appear to Be Big, Bad Player in Global Warming\u201d \u2014 an amplifying feedback (sorry Lindzen and fellow deniers)\" rel=\"bookmark\" href=\"http:\/\/climateprogress.org\/2009\/07\/24\/science-deniers-lindzen-clouds-amplifying-positive-feedback-not-negative\/\"><em>Science<\/em>: \u201cClouds Appear to Be Big, Bad Player in Global Warming,\u201dan amplifying feedback (sorry Lindzen and fellow deniers)<\/a>.\u00a0 And for more Lindzen debunking \u2014 see <a href=\"http:\/\/www.realclimate.org\/index.php\/archives\/2007\/04\/lindzen-in-newsweek\/\">RealClimate here<\/a>.<\/p>\n<p>Related Posts:<\/p>\n<ul>\n<li><a title=\"Permanent Link to Climatic Research Unit scientists cleared (again)\" rel=\"bookmark\" href=\"http:\/\/climateprogress.org\/2010\/04\/14\/climatic-research-unit-scientists-cleared-again\/\">Climatic Research Unit scientists cleared (again)<\/a><\/li>\n<li><a title=\"Permanent Link to Contest:  Rename The Scandal Formerly Known As Climategate\" rel=\"bookmark\" href=\"http:\/\/climateprogress.org\/2010\/04\/04\/the-scandal-formerly-known-as-climategate-scienc\/\">Contest:  Rename The Scandal Formerly Known As Climategate<\/a><\/li>\n<li><a title=\"Permanent Link to House of Commons exonerates Phil Jones\" rel=\"bookmark\" href=\"http:\/\/climateprogress.org\/2010\/03\/30\/house-of-commons-exonerates-climate-scientist-phil-jones\/\">House of Commons exonerates Phil Jones<\/a><\/li>\n<\/ul>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>&#8220;Climate Science In Denial,&#8221; reads a Wall Street Journal op-ed headline. &#8220;Global warming alarmists have been discredited, but you wouldn&#8217;t know it from the rhetoric this Earth Day.&#8221; Actually, the subhead should be revised: &#8220;Global warming denialists have been re-discredited, but you wouldn&#8217;t know it from the rhetoric in today&#8217;s Wall Street Journal.&#8221; Far be [&hellip;]<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":106,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"closed","ping_status":"closed","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"footnotes":""},"categories":[7],"tags":[],"class_list":["post-542543","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry","category-news"],"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/mereja.media\/index\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/542543","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/mereja.media\/index\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/mereja.media\/index\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/mereja.media\/index\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/106"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/mereja.media\/index\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=542543"}],"version-history":[{"count":0,"href":"https:\/\/mereja.media\/index\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/542543\/revisions"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/mereja.media\/index\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=542543"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/mereja.media\/index\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=542543"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/mereja.media\/index\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=542543"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}