{"id":546389,"date":"2010-04-28T14:42:10","date_gmt":"2010-04-28T18:42:10","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/www.theatlantic.com\/business\/archive\/2010\/04\/greece-and-the-euro-going-going\/39644\/"},"modified":"2010-04-28T14:42:10","modified_gmt":"2010-04-28T18:42:10","slug":"greece-and-the-euro-going-going","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/mereja.media\/index\/546389","title":{"rendered":"Greece and the Euro:  Going, Going . . ."},"content":{"rendered":"<p>The most terrifying words I&#8217;ve seen written so far about the growing crisis in Greece were <a href=\"http:\/\/www.nakedcapitalism.com\/2010\/04\/greece-downgrade-what-shoes-will-drop-next.html\">penned<\/a> by Yves Smith yesterday:&nbsp; &#8220;So the whole idea that the financial crisis was over is being called into doubt. Recall that the Great Depression nadir was the sovereign debt default phase. And the EU&#8217;s erratic responses (obvious hesitancy followed by finesses rather than decisive responses) is going to prove even more detrimental as the Club Med crisis grinds on.&#8221;<\/p>\n<p>The Great Depression was composed of two separate panics.&nbsp; As you can see from <a href=\"http:\/\/newsfrom1930.blogspot.com\/\">contemporary accounts<\/a>&#8211;and I highly recommend that anyone who is interested in the Great Depression read the archives of that blog along with Benjamin Roth&#8217;s <a href=\"https:\/\/www.amazon.com\/dp\/158648799X?tag=livefromthewt-20&amp;camp=0&amp;creative=0&amp;linkCode=as1&amp;creativeASIN=158648799X&amp;adid=058D8SSF20BJDC2VRZES&amp;\">diary of the Great Depression<\/a>&#8211;in 1930 people thought they&#8217;d seen the worst of things.&nbsp; <\/p>\n<p>Unfortunately, the economic conditions created by the first panic were now eating away at the foundations of financial institutions and governments, notably the failure of Creditanstalt in Austria.&nbsp; The Austrian government, mired in its own problems, couldn&#8217;t forestall bankruptcy; though the bank was ultimately bought by a Norwegian bank, the contagion had already spread.&nbsp; To Germany.&nbsp; Which was one of the reasons that the Nazis came to power.&nbsp; It&#8217;s also, ultimately, one of the reasons that we had our second banking crisis, which pushed America to the bottom of the Great Depression, and brought FDR to power here.<\/p>\n<p>Not that I think we&#8217;re going to get another Third Reich out of this, or even another Great Depression.&nbsp; But it means we should be wary of the infamous &#8220;double dip&#8221; that a lot of economists have been expecting.&nbsp; The United States is in comparatively good shape, but the euro is in crisis, and already-weak European banks seem to be massively exposed to Greece&#8217;s huge debt load.&nbsp; They&#8217;re even more exposed to the debt of the other PIIGS, which is far too large for it all to be bailed out.&nbsp; The size of the rescue package that Greece needs is already going to take a fairly substantial chunk of the IMF&#8217;s war chest.<\/p>\n<p>And yet, like a lot of analysts, I don&#8217;t see much chance that a bailout is going to work.&nbsp; As <a href=\"http:\/\/blogs.reuters.com\/felix-salmon\/2010\/04\/28\/roubini-on-greece\/\">Felix Salmon<\/a> points out, even a substantial IMF intervention isn&#8217;t going to bring yields down to their pre-crisis levels, because the new debt is going to jump in front of other creditors&#8211;so while it reduces the odds of default, it also increases the haircut that debtors will have to take if the bailout actually happens.<\/p>\n<p>It&#8217;s not clear that Greece has the political will for the austerity measures it&#8217;s going to have to make even if its debt yields come back down&#8211;and the higher they stay, the smaller the chance.&nbsp; This is about the calculation its creditors are making, which is why yields are now in the 20% range.&nbsp; Which, perversely, makes it more likely that they&#8217;re going to lose their money.<\/p>\n<p><br clear=\"both\" style=\"clear: both;\"\/><br \/>\n<br clear=\"both\" style=\"clear: both;\"\/><br \/>\n  <a style='font-size: 10px; color: maroon;' href='http:\/\/www.pheedcontent.com\/hostedMorselClick.php?hfmm=v3:2f34412575ad3cf709eefdd241481dcc:bO0qskLZ8tEtJQ8dI1AE3XhJl2EjYPn3iNRy8ZfKVwG5F5sxXeHPXld0HWQggcZHNPUXGrd8oDMq'><img border='0' title='Email this Article' alt='Email this Article' src='http:\/\/images.pheedo.com\/images\/mm\/emailthis.png'\/><\/a><br \/>\n  <a style='font-size: 10px; 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&#8220;So the whole idea that the financial crisis was over is being called into doubt. Recall that the Great Depression nadir was the sovereign debt default phase. And the EU&#8217;s erratic responses (obvious hesitancy [&hellip;]<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":80,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"closed","ping_status":"closed","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"footnotes":""},"categories":[7],"tags":[],"class_list":["post-546389","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry","category-news"],"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/mereja.media\/index\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/546389","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/mereja.media\/index\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/mereja.media\/index\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/mereja.media\/index\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/80"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/mereja.media\/index\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=546389"}],"version-history":[{"count":0,"href":"https:\/\/mereja.media\/index\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/546389\/revisions"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/mereja.media\/index\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=546389"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/mereja.media\/index\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=546389"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/mereja.media\/index\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=546389"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}