{"id":577483,"date":"2010-05-25T01:07:58","date_gmt":"2010-05-25T05:07:58","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/techdirt.com\/articles\/20100524\/0348149549.shtml"},"modified":"2010-05-25T01:07:58","modified_gmt":"2010-05-25T05:07:58","slug":"if-youre-going-to-dump-on-citizen-journalism-projects-it-probably-helps-not-to-get-all-your-facts-wrong","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/mereja.media\/index\/577483","title":{"rendered":"If You&#8217;re Going To Dump On &#8216;Citizen Journalism&#8217; Projects&#8230; It Probably Helps Not To Get All Your Facts Wrong"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>This one comes via <a href=\"http:\/\/twitter.com\/jayrosen_nyu\/statuses\/14583401771\" >Jay Rosen<\/a>, who points us to an article at NowToronto.com that <a href=\"http:\/\/www.nowtoronto.com\/daily\/story.cfm?content=175027\" >trashes a new Toronto-based journalism project<\/a> called <a href=\"http:\/\/www.openfile.ca\/\" >OpenFile<\/a>, for being a &#8220;citizen journalism&#8221; project.  The main complaint seems to be that so-called &#8220;citizen journalism&#8221; companies haven&#8217;t done well, and thus, this new one won&#8217;t do well either.  It also complains that &#8220;the tone&#8221; is &#8220;all over the place&#8221; because it doesn&#8217;t have an institutional voice.  That point struck me as odd, because any news publication that has many opinion writers and columnists often has a tone that is &#8220;all over the place&#8221; due to the conflicting views of those opinion writers.  Just look at the NY Times and its varied op-ed writers.<\/p>\n<p>But what made the story more amusing is the note in the comments that the guy trashing this &#8220;citizen journalism&#8221; project got pretty much all of the facts wrong, including the idea that it&#8217;s a &#8220;citizen journalism&#8221; project.  As the comment noted:<\/p>\n<blockquote><p><i><br \/>\nWe don&#8217;t do citizen journalism, and people don&#8217;t vote on the pitches. Maybe you want to consider linking to this comment in the piece, or offering a correction.<\/p>\n<p>Your points about the challenges faced by sites like NowPublic etc. are valid, but in all honesty they don&#8217;t apply. It&#8217;s incorrect to say we&#8217;re practicing citizen journalism in light of the fact that we actually hire professional journalists to follow up on pitches submitted by the public. That&#8217;s one of the distinguishing characteristics of our model.<\/p>\n<p>When you ask whose perspective is offered in the piece about Sonny Yeung, it&#8217;s perfectly clear that it&#8217;s the perspective of the author of the piece, who also happens to be working at the Toronto Star for the summer. It wasn&#8217;t written by a citizen journalist. It has professional byline just like the above post does.<\/p>\n<p>We take suggestions from the public and encourage them to be part of the reporting process, but the work is done by professionals<br \/>\n<\/i><\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p>It would seem that, if you&#8217;re working for an established publication, and want to dump on &#8220;citizen journalism&#8221; for not being of particularly high quality, it would behoove you to make sure that your own article on the subject is at least close to accurate.<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"http:\/\/techdirt.com\/articles\/20100524\/0348149549.shtml\">Permalink<\/a> | <a href=\"http:\/\/techdirt.com\/articles\/20100524\/0348149549.shtml#comments\">Comments<\/a> | <a href=\"http:\/\/techdirt.com\/article.php?sid=20100524\/0348149549&#038;op=sharethis\">Email This Story<\/a><br \/>\n <br clear=\"both\" style=\"clear: both;\"\/><br \/>\n<br clear=\"both\" style=\"clear: both;\"\/><br \/>\n<a href=\"http:\/\/ads.pheedo.com\/click.phdo?s=58f4fd0c6e6662d0a6fe2a5968c6cc99&#038;p=1\"><img decoding=\"async\" alt=\"\" style=\"border: 0;\" border=\"0\" src=\"http:\/\/ads.pheedo.com\/img.phdo?s=58f4fd0c6e6662d0a6fe2a5968c6cc99&#038;p=1\"\/><\/a><br \/>\n<img alt=\"\" height=\"0\" width=\"0\" border=\"0\" style=\"display:none\" src=%22http:\/\/a.triggit.com\/px?u=pheedo&#038;rtv=TechBiz\n&#038;rtv=p29198&#038;rtv=f8626\"\/><img alt=\"\" height=\"0\" width=\"0\" border=\"0\" style=\"display:none\" src=%22http:\/\/pixel.quantserve.com\/pixel\/p-8bUhLiluj0fAw.gif?labels=pub.29198.rss.TechBiz\n.8626,cat.TechBiz\n.rss\"\/><\/p>\n<div class=\"feedflare\">\n<a href=\"http:\/\/feeds.techdirt.com\/~ff\/techdirt\/feed?a=M5LzzeJ5cMU:rTL6JgAHvhg:D7DqB2pKExk\"><img decoding=\"async\" src=\"http:\/\/feeds.feedburner.com\/~ff\/techdirt\/feed?i=M5LzzeJ5cMU:rTL6JgAHvhg:D7DqB2pKExk\" border=\"0\"><\/img><\/a> <a href=\"http:\/\/feeds.techdirt.com\/~ff\/techdirt\/feed?a=M5LzzeJ5cMU:rTL6JgAHvhg:c-S6u7MTCTE\"><img decoding=\"async\" src=\"http:\/\/feeds.feedburner.com\/~ff\/techdirt\/feed?d=c-S6u7MTCTE\" border=\"0\"><\/img><\/a>\n<\/div>\n<p><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" src=\"http:\/\/feeds.feedburner.com\/~r\/techdirt\/feed\/~4\/M5LzzeJ5cMU\" height=\"1\" width=\"1\"\/><\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>This one comes via Jay Rosen, who points us to an article at NowToronto.com that trashes a new Toronto-based journalism project called OpenFile, for being a &#8220;citizen journalism&#8221; project. The main complaint seems to be that so-called &#8220;citizen journalism&#8221; companies haven&#8217;t done well, and thus, this new one won&#8217;t do well either. It also complains [&hellip;]<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":1,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"closed","ping_status":"closed","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"footnotes":""},"categories":[7],"tags":[],"class_list":["post-577483","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry","category-news"],"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/mereja.media\/index\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/577483","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/mereja.media\/index\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/mereja.media\/index\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/mereja.media\/index\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/1"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/mereja.media\/index\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=577483"}],"version-history":[{"count":0,"href":"https:\/\/mereja.media\/index\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/577483\/revisions"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/mereja.media\/index\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=577483"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/mereja.media\/index\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=577483"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/mereja.media\/index\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=577483"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}