{"id":577677,"date":"2010-05-23T15:01:27","date_gmt":"2010-05-23T19:01:27","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/www.grist.org\/article\/2010-05-24-worried-about-falling-birthrates-then-drop-that-sexist-attitude\/"},"modified":"2010-05-23T15:01:27","modified_gmt":"2010-05-23T19:01:27","slug":"worried-about-falling-birthrates-then-drop-that-sexist-attitude","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/mereja.media\/index\/577677","title":{"rendered":"Worried about falling birthrates? Then drop that sexist attitude"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>\t\t\t\tby Lisa Hymas <\/p>\n<p>Photo: <a href=\"http:\/\/www5.flickr.com\/photos\/berlin-streetart\/\">streunna4<\/a> via FlickrI&#8217;ve been happy to see my recent posts on <a href=\"http:\/\/feeds.grist.org\/article\/2010-03-30-gink-manifesto-say-it-loud-im-childfree-and-im-proud\">childfree<\/a> <a href=\"http:\/\/feeds.grist.org\/article\/2010-05-17-how-green-are-the-childless-by-choice\">living<\/a> and <a href=\"http:\/\/feeds.grist.org\/article\/2010-04-06-we-need-birth-control-not-geoengineering\">population<br \/>\ngrowth<\/a> spark discussion on topics too often avoided.&nbsp; We&#8217;ve had spirited conversations in the<br \/>\n<a href=\"http:\/\/feeds.grist.org\/article\/2010-03-30-gink-manifesto-say-it-loud-im-childfree-and-im-proud\/#comments\">comment<\/a> <a href=\"http:\/\/feeds.grist.org\/article\/2010-04-02-debunking-the-youd-be-a-great-green-parent-argument\/#comments\">threads<\/a> <a href=\"http:\/\/feeds.grist.org\/article\/2010-04-06-we-need-birth-control-not-geoengineering\/#comments\">on<\/a> <a href=\"http:\/\/feeds.grist.org\/article\/2010-05-17-how-green-are-the-childless-by-choice\/#comments\">Grist<\/a> and Grist&#8217;s <a href=\"http:\/\/www.facebook.com\/home.php#%21\/grist.org\">Facebook<br \/>\npage<\/a>, and that&#8217;s percolated out to <a href=\"http:\/\/andrewsullivan.theatlantic.com\/the_daily_dish\/2010\/04\/taking-green-to-the-extreme.html\">Andrew<\/a> <a href=\"http:\/\/andrewsullivan.theatlantic.com\/the_daily_dish\/2010\/04\/taking-green-to-the-extreme-ctd.html\">Sullivan&#8217;s<\/a> <a href=\"http:\/\/andrewsullivan.theatlantic.com\/the_daily_dish\/2010\/04\/putting-gaia-on-the-pill.html\">blog<\/a> and the <a href=\"http:\/\/www.guardian.co.uk\/environment\/2010\/apr\/06\/geoengineering-carbon-emissions\"><em>Guardian<\/em> website<\/a>,<br \/>\namong other spots.&nbsp; The latest<br \/>\noutlet to join the conversation is <a href=\"http:\/\/www.aolnews.com\/science\/article\/ultimate-way-to-go-green-dont-have-kids-writer-lisa-hymas-says\/19481514\">AOL<br \/>\nNews<\/a>, where reporter Dave Thier does a better job than most of putting the<br \/>\nissues into context.&nbsp; (Compare to <a href=\"http:\/\/feeds.grist.org\/article\/2010-04-19-lisa-hymas-childfree-living-population-msnbc-dylan-ratigan\">MSNBC&#8217;s<br \/>\n<em>Dylan Ratigan Show<\/em><\/a>, which erroneously boiled down my message to<br \/>\n&#8220;Kids are killing the planet.&#8221; Never look to cable TV for<br \/>\nnuance.)&nbsp;\n<\/p>\n<p>And the conversation has spread beyond the English-speaking<br \/>\nworld via articles published in <a href=\"http:\/\/www.giornalettismo.com\/archives\/61586\/l%E2%80%99orgoglio-%E2%80%9Csenza-figli%E2%80%9D\/\">Italy<\/a> and <a href=\"http:\/\/zerohora.clicrbs.com.br\/zerohora\/jsp\/default2.jsp?uf=1&amp;local=1&amp;source=a2905815.xml&amp;template=3898.dwt&amp;edition=14703&amp;section=1913\">Brazil<\/a>.&nbsp; My Italian and Portuguese language<br \/>\nskills are rusty, but from what <a href=\"http:\/\/translate.google.com\/\">Google<br \/>\nTranslate<\/a> tells me, these authors seem to understand &#8220;the advantages of a life led<br \/>\nwithout putting the light of little children.&#8221; (Or something like that. I welcome<br \/>\nfurther insight from our cosmopolitan readership.)\n<\/p>\n<p>It shouldn&#8217;t come as a surprise that Italians are receptive<br \/>\nto the <a href=\"http:\/\/feeds.grist.org\/article\/2010-03-30-gink-manifesto-say-it-loud-im-childfree-and-im-proud\">GINK<br \/>\nmessage<\/a>.&nbsp; Italy has one of the<br \/>\nlowest fertility rates in the world&#8212;<a href=\"https:\/\/www.cia.gov\/library\/publications\/the-world-factbook\/geos\/it.html\">1.32<br \/>\nbirths per woman<\/a>.&nbsp; There&#8217;s lots<br \/>\nof hand-wringing over the graying populace in Italy and some other European<br \/>\ncountries (see, for example, <a href=\"http:\/\/www.nytimes.com\/2010\/05\/23\/world\/europe\/23europe.html\">this article in today&#8217;s <em>New York Times<\/em><\/a>), and that&#8217;s an issue I&#8217;ll delve into in a later post.&nbsp;\n<\/p>\n<p>For now, I want to point out one interesting factor that<br \/>\ncontributes to low Italian birthrates, as described by Fred Pearce in his new<br \/>\nbook <em><a href=\"http:\/\/www.powells.com\/biblio\/9780807085837?&amp;PID=25450\">The<br \/>\nComing Population Crash&#8212;And Our Planet&#8217;s Surprising Future<\/a><\/em>; Italy&#8217;s baby bust can be blamed in part on &#8220;the dysfunctional roles of the<br \/>\nstate and church,&#8221; he writes.&nbsp; The<br \/>\nVatican has tried hard to keep birth control out of women&#8217;s hands (Frances<br \/>\nKissling reports on its efforts in a recent <a href=\"http:\/\/motherjones.com\/politics\/2010\/05\/catholic-church-vatican-birth-control\"><em>Mother<br \/>\nJones<\/em> article<\/a>)&#8212;but even in Italy, the cradle of Catholicism,<br \/>\nthat campaign is backfiring.&nbsp;<br \/>\nPearce explains:\n<\/p>\n<p>[The Catholic church and the<br \/>\nItalian government] both promote an old patriarchal ideal of large families in<br \/>\nwhich the wife stays at home.&nbsp; The<br \/>\nstate denies any responsibility for child care or helping mothers into<br \/>\nwork.&nbsp; The church, despite losing<br \/>\nits influence in the bedroom, retains power over the political climate and<br \/>\npublic services.&nbsp; This, the demographers said, turns out to be a lethal<br \/>\ncombination for baby making.&nbsp; <strong>Where<br \/>\nwomen are grabbing their new rights but men are not taking their new<br \/>\nresponsibilities, the result is ultralow fertility.<\/strong>&nbsp; [Emphasis mine.]\n<\/p>\n<p>Pearce compares this to the situation in more egalitarian Sweden, where the<br \/>\nfertility rate is <a href=\"https:\/\/www.cia.gov\/library\/publications\/the-world-factbook\/geos\/sw.html\">1.67<br \/>\nchildren per woman<\/a>&#8212;&#8220;not at replacement levels, but not set to<br \/>\ndemographic meltdown either.&#8221; He describes the situation of a woman named<br \/>\nAstrid who lives in Stockholm:\n<\/p>\n<p>She got a year&#8217;s maternity leave<br \/>\nwhen each of her [two] children was born. She works a flexible thirty-hour week<br \/>\nand can put her children in a nursery at the office when she needs to. Her<br \/>\npartner, Sven, is adept at changing diapers and takes turns with the four a.m.<br \/>\nfeeding.&nbsp; &#8230;\n<\/p>\n<p>The Swedish lesson is that [in<br \/>\nEuropean countries] where employers, the state, and men are more flexible,<br \/>\nnational fertility rates are higher. &#8230;\n<\/p>\n<p>A lot of this comes down to power,<br \/>\nsays Scandinavia&#8217;s top demographer, Gosta Epsing-Andersen. These days, most<br \/>\ncouples have a &#8220;bargaining process in order to reconcile employment and<br \/>\nchild care.&#8221; Women who work, especially those with good jobs, can drive a<br \/>\nbetter bargain. They also have the pick of available men&#8212;choosing those who<br \/>\nwill change a diaper as well as be good in bed. In Scandinavia, 85 percent of<br \/>\nthe best-educated women have children, compared with only 60 percent in more<br \/>\nconservative and patriarchal Germany.\n<\/p>\n<p>In short: You want more kids in your country? End entrenched<br \/>\nchauvinism and start supporting working moms.&nbsp;\n<\/p>\n<p>This is, of course, just one piece of a complicated puzzle.&nbsp; In the developing world, it&#8217;s been demonstrated time and again that more rights and opportunities for women lead to lower fertility rates.&nbsp; More to come in future posts about how all of these pieces fit together.\n<\/p>\n<p><strong>Related Links:<\/strong><\/p>\n<p><a href=\"http:\/\/www.grist.org\/article\/2010-05-17-how-green-are-the-childless-by-choice\/\">How green are the &#8216;childless by choice&#8217;?<\/a><\/p>\n<p><a href=\"http:\/\/www.grist.org\/article\/2010-05-13-birth-control-opponents-greenwash-their-message\/\">Birth-control opponents greenwash their message<\/a><\/p>\n<p><a href=\"http:\/\/www.grist.org\/article\/2010-05-09-50-years-of-the-pill-and-this-is-the-best-we-can-do\/\">50 years after the Pill and this is the best we can do?<\/a><\/p>\n<p>\t\t\t<br clear=\"both\" style=\"clear: both;\"\/><br \/>\n<br clear=\"both\" style=\"clear: both;\"\/><br \/>\n<a href=\"http:\/\/ads.pheedo.com\/click.phdo?s=04e2abf95d8d04d056400a31e4a15377&#038;p=1\"><img decoding=\"async\" alt=\"\" style=\"border: 0;\" border=\"0\" src=\"http:\/\/ads.pheedo.com\/img.phdo?s=04e2abf95d8d04d056400a31e4a15377&#038;p=1\"\/><\/a><br \/>\n<img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" alt=\"\" height=\"0\" width=\"0\" border=\"0\" style=\"display:none\" src=\"http:\/\/a.triggit.com\/px?u=pheedo&#038;rtv=News&#038;rtv=p29804&#038;rtv=f18590\"\/><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" alt=\"\" height=\"0\" width=\"0\" border=\"0\" style=\"display:none\" src=\"http:\/\/pixel.quantserve.com\/pixel\/p-8bUhLiluj0fAw.gif?labels=pub.29804.rss.News.18590,cat.News.rss\"\/><\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>by Lisa Hymas Photo: streunna4 via FlickrI&#8217;ve been happy to see my recent posts on childfree living and population growth spark discussion on topics too often avoided.&nbsp; We&#8217;ve had spirited conversations in the comment threads on Grist and Grist&#8217;s Facebook page, and that&#8217;s percolated out to Andrew Sullivan&#8217;s blog and the Guardian website, among other [&hellip;]<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":765,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"closed","ping_status":"closed","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"footnotes":""},"categories":[7],"tags":[],"class_list":["post-577677","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry","category-news"],"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/mereja.media\/index\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/577677","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/mereja.media\/index\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/mereja.media\/index\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/mereja.media\/index\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/765"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/mereja.media\/index\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=577677"}],"version-history":[{"count":0,"href":"https:\/\/mereja.media\/index\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/577677\/revisions"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/mereja.media\/index\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=577677"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/mereja.media\/index\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=577677"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/mereja.media\/index\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=577677"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}