{"id":655488,"date":"2013-05-01T10:51:59","date_gmt":"2013-05-01T14:51:59","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/blog.ted.com\/?p=75287"},"modified":"2013-05-01T11:05:26","modified_gmt":"2013-05-01T15:05:26","slug":"the-language-of-photography-qa-with-sebastio-salgado","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/mereja.media\/index\/655488","title":{"rendered":"The language of photography: Q&amp;A with Sebasti&atilde;o Salgado"},"content":{"rendered":"<p><b> <img decoding=\"async\" class=\"aligncenter size-full wp-image-75291\" alt=\"SebastiaoSalgado_QA\" src=\"http:\/\/tedconfblog.files.wordpress.com\/2013\/05\/sebastiaosalgado_qa.jpg?w=900\"   \/>By Ryan Lash<\/b><\/p>\n<p>I\u2019ll never forget the first images of Sebasti\u00e3o Salgado\u2019s that I ever saw. At the time, I was just getting into photography, and his images of the mines of Serra Pelada struck me as otherworldly, possessing a power that I had never seen in a photo before (or, if I\u2019m honest, since). <a href=\"http:\/\/www.ted.com\/talks\/sebastiao_salgado_the_silent_drama_of_photography.html\" class=\"video_teaser\" ><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" src=\"http:\/\/images.ted.com\/images\/ted\/14f8e8189a9921e6d3bf2a5e363bf56a02763174_240x180.jpg\" alt=\"Sebasti\u00e3o Salgado: The silent drama of photography\" width=\"132\" height=\"99\" \/>Sebasti\u00e3o Salgado: The silent drama of photography<span class=\"play\"><\/span><\/a>In the twenty years that I\u2019ve been photographing, his work has remained the benchmark of excellence. So it was with great trepidation that I sat down with him at TED2013, where he gave the talk &#8220;<a href=\"http:\/\/www.ted.com\/talks\/sebastiao_salgado_the_silent_drama_of_photography.html\">The silent drama of photography<\/a>,&#8221; for a short interview. After all, what does one ask of the master?<\/p>\n<p><b>I have so many questions &#8212; I\u2019m a great admirer of your work. But let me begin with: why photography?<\/b><\/p>\n<p>Photography came into my life when I was 29 &#8212; very late. When I finally began to take photographs, I discovered that photography is an incredible language. It was possible to move with my camera and capture with my camera, and to communicate with images. It was a language that didn\u2019t need any translation because photography can be read in many languages. I can write in photography &#8212; and you can read it in China, in Canada, in Brazil, anywhere.<\/p>\n<p>Photography allowed me to see anything that I wished to see on this planet. Anything that hurts my heart, I want to see it and to photograph it. Anything that makes me happy, I want to see it and to photograph it. Anything that I think is beautiful enough to show, I show it. Photography became my life.<\/p>\n<p><b>You started as a social activist before you were a photographer. Is that how you think of yourself still &#8212; as an activist?<\/b><\/p>\n<p>No, I don\u2019t believe that I\u2019m an activist photographer. I was, when I was young, an activist &#8212; a leftist. I was a Marxist, very concerned for everything, and politics &#8212; activism &#8212; for me was very important. But when I started photography, it was quite a different thing. I did not make pictures just because I was an activist or because it was necessary to denounce something, I made pictures because it was my life, in the sense that it was how I expressed what was in my mind &#8212; my ideology, my ethics &#8212; through the language of photography. For me, it is much more than activism. It\u2019s my way of life, photography.<\/p>\n<p><b>You do these very large, long-term projects. Can we talk a bit about your process at the beginning of a project? How do you conceive of it? How do you build it in your mind before you start?<\/b><\/p>\n<p>You know, before you do this kind of project, you must have a huge identification with the subject, because the project is going to be a very big part of your life. If you don\u2019t have this identification, you won\u2019t stay with it.<\/p>\n<p>When I did workers, I did workers because for me, for many years, workers were the reason that I was active politically. I did studies of Marxism, and the base of Marxism is the working class. I saw that we were arriving at the end of the first big industrial revolution, where the role of the worker inside that model was changed. And I saw in this moment that many things would be changed in the worker\u2019s world. And I made a decision to pay homage to the working class. And the name of my body of work was <a href=\"http:\/\/www.amazon.com\/Sebasti%C3%A3o-Salgado-Workers-Archaeology-Industrial\/dp\/089381525X\"><i>Workers: An Archaeology of the Industrial Age<\/i><\/a>. Because they were becoming like archaeology; it was photographs of something that was disappearing, and that for me was very motivating. So that was my identification, and it was a pleasure to do this work. But I was conscious that the majority of the things that were photographed were also ending.<\/p>\n<p>When I did another body of work, <a href=\"http:\/\/www.amazon.com\/Sebastiao-Salgado-Migrations\/dp\/0893818917\"><i>Migrations<\/i><\/a>, I saw that a reorganization of all production systems was going on around the planet. We have my country, Brazil, that\u2019s gone from an agricultural country to a huge industrial country &#8212; really huge. A few years ago, the most important export products were coffee and sugar. Today, they are cars and planes. When I was photographing the workers, I was looking at how this process of industrialization was modifying all the organizations of the human family.<\/p>\n<p>Now we have incredible migrations. In Brazil, in 40 years, we have gone from a 92% rural population to, today, more than 93% urban population. In India today, more than 50% of the population is an urban population. That was close to 5%, 30 years ago. China, Japan &#8230; For many years of my life, I was a migrant. Then after that, I became a refugee. This is a story that was my story. I had a huge identification with it and I wanted for many years to do it.<\/p>\n<p>My last project is <a href=\"http:\/\/www.amazonasimages.com\/grands-travaux\"><i>Genesis<\/i><\/a>. I started an environmental project in Brazil with my wife. We become so close to nature, we had such a huge pleasure in seeing trees growing there &#8212; to see birds coming, insects coming, mammals coming, life coming all around me. And I discovered one of the most fascinating things of our planet &#8212; nature.<\/p>\n<p>I had an idea to do this for what I think will be my last project. I\u2019ve become old &#8212; I\u2019m 69 years old, close to 70. I had an idea to go and have a look at the planet and try to understand through this process &#8212; through pictures &#8212; the landscapes and how alive they are. To understand the vegetation of the planet, the trees; to understand the other animals, and to photograph us from the beginning, when we lived in equilibrium with nature. I organized a project, an eight-year project, to photograph <i>Genesis<\/i>. I talked about how you have to have identification for a project &#8212; you cannot hold on for eight years if you are not in love with the things that you are doing. That\u2019s my life in photography.<\/p>\n<p><b>When you do these large projects, how do you know when it is finished?<\/b><\/p>\n<p>Well, I organize these projects like a guideline for a film &#8212; I write a project. For the start of <i>Genesis<\/i>, I did two years of research. When this project started to come into my mind, I started to look around more and more and, in a month, I knew 80% of the places that I\u2019d be going and the way that we\u2019d be organizing it. We needed to have organization for this kind of thing, so I organized a kind of unified structure. I organized a big group of magazines, foundations, companies, that all put money in this project. And that\u2019s because it\u2019s an expensive project &#8212; I was spending more than $1.5 million per year to photograph these things, to organize expeditions and many different things. And then I started the project. I changed a few things in between, but the base of the project was there.<\/p>\n<p><b>Given the changes in digital media, if you were to start a new project now, do you think you\u2019d still go through photography? Or would you try something different?<\/b><\/p>\n<p>I would go to photography. One thing that is important is that you don\u2019t just go to photography because you like photography. If you believe that you are a photographer, you must have some tools &#8212; without them it would be very complicated &#8212; and those tools are anthropology, sociology, economics, politics. These things you must learn a little bit and situate yourself inside the society that you live in, in order for your photography to become a real language of your society. This is the story that you are living. This is the most important thing.<\/p>\n<p>In my moment, I live my moment. I\u2019m older now, but young photographers must live their moment &#8212; this moment here &#8212; and stand in this society and look deeply at the striking points of this society. These pictures will become important because it\u2019s not just pictures that are important &#8212; it\u2019s important that you are in the moment of your society that your pictures show. If you understand this, there is no limit for you. I believe that is the point. 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At the time, I was just getting into photography, and his images of the mines of Serra Pelada struck me as otherworldly, possessing a power that I had never seen in a photo before (or, if I\u2019m honest, since). 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